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    Default Research assistance - can't find seaman's ship or records

    Hello,

    I'd be really grateful if anyone can advise how I can locate the ship(s) this seaman was assigned to.

    Joeanis Apashay aka William Jacko. Born 1892 in Cameroon. I believe he worked as a steward. Ship impounded in Hamburg at outset of WW1.

    Much appreciated.

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    Yes tat info is available on FMP with Subscription,have looked at it myself now
    Cheers That is the Camp (
    Prison camp or ship---
    RUHLEBEN
    ) not the Ship .will have to see if we can come up with a Ship now ??
    Cheers

    Just of some interest perhaps

    https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/ruhleben_internment_camp
    http://rdpypres.com/uploads/The%20Ru...20of%20WW1.pdf

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    Now according to the info at hand so far we have a wee problem in guessing which Ship called Sappho this one was
    There are a few but from dates a guess would be one of these,both official Numbers listed have Crew Lists at the NA Kew,but one would have to get these both to check??
    Cheers

    Most likely after some research is the first one Built at Hull ???
    however the second one which changed hands has the Crew list for that year in question 1941 so ???

    Official Nos: 111028, 111029, 111291, 111292, 111294, 111299, 111300, 111302, 111303,... | The National Archives


    During August 1914 the Hull cargo steamer
    SAPPHO
    was detained at
    Hamburg
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    109088 1109088 1898 SAPPHO 1244 V1898 #494 T.Wilson, Sons & Co Ltd GBR Hull
    111305 1111305 1900 SAPPHO 1275 V1900 #530 Bristol General SS Co Ltd GBR Bristol
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    Hope that the bit of info may assist in your search
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    Hello Mike,

    Thanks for this!

    Apologies for the delay in replying. Just getting used to the forum. Silly me thought I'd receive an email notification... so hadn't checked back. But now I know.

    Appreciated,

    Sonia

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    Hello Vernon,

    I've not seen this info beforehand. Thank you!

    I am aware that my seaman was interned at Ruhleben and he was referred to as 'Peanuts', as he sold produce at the camp. What has foxed me, though, was that he was from Cameroon which, prior to the war, was a German protectorate and, therefore, it's not apparent why he was interned as a British subject.

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    You chaps are absolutely amazing!

    This means the world to me - seriously. As mentioned, couldn't find his ship no matter how hard I tried for 2 years. I am so grateful.

    Kind regards,

    Sonia

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    Yes, it will, very much. My trail had gone cold.

    Thank you again.

    Best wishes,

    Sonia
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    Well my suggestion now is to get that Crew List from the NA the one I have given the link for,it is downloadable for a small fee,may well be worth a go!??
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    What has foxed me, though, was that he was from Cameroon which, prior to the war, was a German protectorate and, therefore, it's not apparent why he was interned as a British subject.



    Mmmmm! Yes a bit of a puzzle that is ,but i am sure there must be some logical explanation!

    Parents possibly from England ????
    But with an Original name of
    Joeanis Apashay ??????
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    Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1920 (in German) Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries View Image
    Name: Jakob Williams Jacko Apasha˙
    Birth: year
    Death: dd mm 1916 - city, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)

    To view the original Image one will need a Subscription to Ancestry which at the present time I do not have,i am with FMP and unfortunately they do not have this info there!
    Cheers
    So looks by all accounts that he may well have Died while in the CAMP!???

    JUST OF SOME INTEREST
    The men who spent the First World War in Germany's Ruhleben prison
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    don't know if anyone can make out this Document but it is I think his Death Cert ??
    Cheers

    Worked this out so far not Death Cert but Baptism

    Jahres Taufend
    neunbundent Yearly baptism

    Neunbundent

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    Hello Doc,

    This is great information, thank you so much - and for the article.

    I was kind of hoping that he made it out of the camp and had a long, happy life.

    Kind regards,

    Sonia

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    Hello there,

    Just when I thought there paper trail had gone stone cold...

    Yes, it's hard to decipher but will give it a go.

    All the best,

    Sonia

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