Titanic

[John Pruden]

did anyone watch the well put together of the aftermath of the sinking the dirty tricks and the class system of the day? i thought i new a lot about the loss until i watched? if you can watch or get a copy i will bet you will be shocked at the white star line. jp

[John Pruden]

the things the white star tried to worm out of even sending bills for bandsman's uniforms that played as titanic went down everything they could the third class went over the wall it was horrifying to watch i had never seen the program .TITANIC THE AFTERMATH sickening events of the class system ? jp

[Jim Brady]

John I watched that show and found it very interesting,I think the band were employed by a company called Blacks and it was they who sent the bill for the uniforms to the bandsmens families.Did White Star not want to pay compensation to members of the band as they were not employed by White Star.All in all a good show and should it come around again well worth a watch.On Freeview Quest.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[robpage]

I was always under the impression that the non uniformed personnel such as musicians dancers hairdressers and photographers were agency employed rather than employed by the shipping company . I am pretty sure with the Lavender Hull Mob that that was the case . I think even in the case of the 1970s were ships still had first and a tourist class there was a great deal of snobbery and the worst were what I would call the Yorkshire grocers made good rather than the old traditional Gentry

[Captain Kong]

All the passenger ships I have been on, the Staff who are Musicians or the Band, Hairdressers and shop assistants etc. are employed by various agencies and not the ship owner, they have their own rules as regards length of voyage and leave ratios and salaries.

[Jim Brady]

Was it Edmundo Ross or a guy called Geraldo who put the musicians aboard and they were employed by him.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

Hi Jim
on Cunard in the 50s, it was Geraldo, who organised the bands for each ship, maybe on The Empress boats as well.
must have made a fortune.
Cheers
Brian

[John Pruden]

lads i remember joe loss and his brother dead?{sorry i had too} jp

[vic mcclymont]

If I remember correctly some of the musicians on the SA VAAL, had sailed on the Capetown Castle, when she suffered an E.R. explosion.
All staff on that ship had a job for life with UCL.
Vic

[robpage]

I sailed with one of the engineers who went out to fetch it back , he described taking the glass off of an engine room telegraph 1/2 thick , burned all the way through