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9th January 2017, 05:56 AM
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Possibly asked before?
Hi
This may have been posted before but I cannot recall ?
The question is does anyone know what the Prefix letter S before a Seamans Number depicts!
I just have a small thought at the back of my head that it may be for Home Trade only????
The R of course we all know !
Thank You
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9th January 2017, 08:53 AM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
Home Trade seafarers had the same 'R' prefix as all other seamen, it was up to the individual seaman whether or not he sailed FG or HT, if he was an AB - HT he still had to have a L/B Certificate, a HT seaman was no lesser a seaman than a FG seaman and certainly put in more hours on seamanlike duties than his FG counterpart. In my experience many FG men sent by the Pool to join a HT ship couldn't wait to get back to FG as HT was too much like bluddy hard work and no sunshine
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9th January 2017, 08:57 AM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
Never saw an S dis.A. Book. After R became UK at some long forgotten date. May have been about the time that Discharges for Ability and Conduct disappeared. As one usually kept the same number the same as your NHI number, the three books I have are all the same number, even the follow on books that appeared after the loss of discharges for Conduct and Ability. JS
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9th January 2017, 07:29 PM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
There are hundreds AJ ??
Just a few listed here Cheers
BT 372/2996/54 1913 - 1972
S97424 GOMEZ ORTEGA A 16/06/1935 ROMFORD
BT 372/2996/56 1913 - 1972
S97426 GOULD J B 07/12/1939 PADDINGTON
BT 372/2996/57 1913 - 1972
S97427 FISHER R S AUSTRALIA
and many many more too!
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9th January 2017, 08:15 PM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
The 'S' prefix Dis. A number was for various nationalities including British seafarers. There is no defined explanation anywhere giving any further detail on this from any of my sources.
I agree with Ivan - nothing to do with HT service. Although there are a lot of 'S prefixes about, in relative terms, in comparison with the 'R' or 'UK' they are very much in the minority.
Dis. A numbers are an interest of mine - maybe, I will find the answer one day on the last page of the last box of a file in a place a long way away from me.
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9th January 2017, 08:20 PM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
Thanks Hugh
Yes always been a Mystery on those S Prefixes!??
As said may be one day we will know more!
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9th January 2017, 09:30 PM
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RE; Dis. A numbers are an interest of mine
The below means little to me but, may help ?
"The records feature documents known as CR 1, CR 2 and CR 10 cards. The
following information can be found on these cards:
• full name of individual (CR 1, CR 2, CR 10)
• year and place of birth (CR 1, CR 2, CR 10)
• exact date of birth (CR 10)
• rank or rating (CR 1, CR 2, CR 10)
• physical description (CR 2, CR 10)
• photograph (CR 10)
• Royal Naval Reserve (RNR) number (CR 10)
• number and grade of any Board of Trade Certificate (CR 1, CR 2, CR 10)
• name and address of next of kin (CR 10)
• voyage details featuring ship's official number and date of signing on
(CR 1 [one ship only], CR 2, CR 10)
• signature (CR 1)
• Dis. A. number (CR 1, CR 2, CR 10)"
K.
ADDED Discharge S: Seamen - Index
ADDED; It means Discharge A number. Every British seaman starting with the Fourth Register of British Seamen 1913 and maintained until 1941. (The entries for 1913-1918 were destroyed, therefore the register covers the period from 1918 to 1940). had a unique Dis A number usually 6 digits prefixed with the letter "R" some of the early ones were prefixed with the letter "S"and some very early ones, with no prefix letter at all.
Dis A numbers are an important tool in tracing Mercantile Marine/Merchant Navy ancestors as they are unique to one seaman only.
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9th January 2017, 09:35 PM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
Thanks, Keith, I am well aware of all of those.
Regards
Hugh
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We had to pay for our freedom
Then the Merchant Ship Sailors
Paid it in full”
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9th January 2017, 09:43 PM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
Originally Posted by
Hugh
Thanks, Keith, I am well aware of all of those.
Regards
Hugh
No worries just attempting to both help and learn. K
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10th January 2017, 10:29 AM
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Re: Possibly asked before?
When i was in the process of collecting names for putting on our flag,i came across several variations.
I have made a chart with all those variations,please see below.
img021.jpg.
I hope this helps.
MIKE.
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