Is This The Sign Of Things To Come

[Roger Dyer]

Too often, in another life, I saw the end product of drug addiction, the senseless waste of human life, stark evidence of mankind's self-sacrifice in search of eternal euphoria.

Typically, the final scene was often played out in the confines of an evil-smelling cubicle in a public toilet, the original purpose of which has long since been abandoned by a wary public. The thin, lifeless, human form slumped on the toilet pedestal has toppled to one side, a shoulder resting against the wall and the head hanging down as if contemplating the needle still embedded in an arm, the marbled skin in the early stages of decomposition. The body, all that is left of what, twenty years earlier, had been a healthy giggling infant. Now departed from this world it would become a statistic, further evidence of man's enduring stupidity. Unfortunately, drug addiction does not just effect the user. Perhaps it would be of less concern if that were true, but, sadly, the collateral damage from such human behaviour effects us all in some way or another. The statistics may tell you of the direct relationship between illicit drug use and most criminal activity, the increasing public cost of drug clinics and counselling, or the ever rising cost of robbery or theft insurance. However, statistics will not tell you of the 'real' victims in all this, the family and friends who are made to feel helpless, their expressions of concern or love spurned as they watch a Jekyll and Hyde transformation take place in someone they once knew. Eventually, as the habit grows, the veneer of normalcy peels away to reveal a secretive manner, a loss of decency, reason and self-respect, that is replaced by a self-indulgent need to satisfy the craving that has become the very core of their being. During the course of this decline they will not think twice about stealing money or selling the household goods (televisions, stereos, valuables, etc) of those closest to them, anything in order to get a 'fix'. That many of them progress to shoplifting, housebreaking or more serious crime goes without saying.

What is the answer ? ......I only wish I knew. In a general sense, I don't think that legalisation and inexpensive availability of drugs is the way to go. In the short-term, I can see where such a libertarian approach might reduce crime, but in the fullness of time it would, I think, only serve to accelerate the moral breakdown of society and shorten the tenure of mankind on the planet Earth. Personally, I would prefer a most stringent penalty for those choosing to peddle drugs at any level. Following six months of grace, during which time the public be made fully aware of intended change to the law, I would recommend the return of the death penalty for all found guilty of seeking to benefit from the misery of others. In conjunction with such laws I would introduce intensive drug awareness education for all schoolchildren (accompanied by graphic illustrative literature if necessary). The are those who would argue the trauma of such education is unnecessary, but, surely, by exposing our little ones to the horrors of drug addiction whilst at an impressionable age, we might just save their lives.


..............................Roger

[Jim Brady]

The police Matrix Team here on Merseyside are doing a great job and are getting good results on a weekly basis,I'm not talking about the pusher on the street corner but the heavy duty gangsters.The amounts involved here are tremendous two weeks ago £93million in a cargo of beef from Argentina.The Matrix Team have caught what they believe are the big players in this but unfortunately there is always someone to fill their shoes and so it goes on.Not only that but the gangsters still carry on operating from inside the prison with the use of mobile phones.Many years ago i did believe that cannabis was safer than drinking beer,and then I seen at first hand the long term affect that it can have.Long term use can cause psychosis,if you ever meet somebody who has gone through this and are now drug free they will not be advocates of the use of "it's only cannabis it wont do you any harm".All drugs are a curse on society.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[John Gill]

one of the biggest drugs on the planet is tea!! and we only got that by swopping drugs for it?jp

makes one wonder who won the Opium Wars

[Les Woodard]

Facts are that there will never be any laws to stop this. To many in power would also be caught up if laws where more stringent. The best help a family can give an addict is to kick the buggers out of the family nest because propping up their habit will only delay this outcome at the expense of the family. As said before I took this step simply by realising that I am here to look after all the family not just one member of it that chooses to go of the rails. Is that not the way of nature that the runt of the litter looses out. People kill themselves over just as many other things than illicit drugs. How many of you can speak out about over prescribed drugs from the doctor that has caused misery. I know of several cases. Same goes for alcohol and gambling. The list goes on and on but we live with it. Okay so it seems that I am a voice alone wanting to legalise it all but what is the answer if not and just sitting back and wanting more laws made that everyone knows will not be inforced is only a waste of time and money. Be interesting to see how it all pans out in Colorado now that they have legalised pot there. Recall a question years ago about a what sort of choice would one make if confronted with having to have an operation and the choice between to surgeons. One that had been on the grog all night or the other one who had been smoking pot all night. I know that is a stupid one but it bears a thought. I am not trying either to change anyones views on this subject but to play devils advocate to throw in an opposing view to bring the topic into perspective. After all we would all like to see hard core and not so hard core drugs banished from society but in all fairness we know that this will never ever happen and no matter how enraged we get it will not go away. So why the heck should we waste our heartbeats on a section of society that wants to commit suicide slowly. The positive of it all is that at least it is a way of reducing the world population and enacting Darwins theory of weeding (pun intended) out the weak. Just pass the a law enabling the general public to be able to defend themselves against druggies with firearms when their homes are being invaded. I will not be pushing my views on legalisation anymore because obviously I am beating my head against a brick wall here LOL.

[Lou Barron]

Anybody who deals in drugs regardless who they are should be put on a desert island and forgot about

[Glenn Baker]

There are some very moving posts on this subject and it doesnt take Einstein to realize that Drugs and addiction have touched and ruined so many families that have been unfortunate to inherit a family member who is an Addict.
One thing I have learnt out here is the Methadone is a long term substitute and addicts on recovery use it as a stop gap and the nature of the beast goes on. drug addicts are entirely different from Alcoholics. Alcoholics wont burgle your home etc for a bottle. druggo,s are the very opposite. Funny enough I know a Doctor a good one too who has a Drug addict son and is frightened by his every move as it is a most deceitful addiction Lies thievery and every thing else when this Doctor gets relief postings in other towns he actually told me he doesnt know if all his furniture will still be there when he returns home after a few weeks doctoring in other parts of Australia. so its effects are catastrophic, its got no class distinction it effects everyone who is a family member.
Thats why these Suppliers or Distributors for want of a better word should be disposed of from this planet they are virtually commiting long term murder, on a slow death Basis. Money is the Greedy key.
The most unexpected people could be dealing in it, they might have a very nice house in the best part of town and three cars.
Im afraid we are the only ones that can push the Politicians into getting very serious about these issues, otherwise it will just go on and on. Start by taking the Driving licences away from Convicted Druggos it limits their Geographical ways of being connected to their suppliers.

[Jim Brady]

Glenn,many of them keep a low profile and appear to be living a quiet respectable life they are at the top.Others are full of bling drive top of the range cars lots of foreign holidays and yet have no legitimate income to support it.Many sunbed shops are fronts for the dealers,one family just been caught the wife pleaded the gaming act knew nothing of her husbands affairs.She had spent thousands of pounds hairdresses botox top of the range handbags clothes etc and had about £2k in her purse when stopped and she was drawing Social Security.Some of them just cant keep away from it,Curtis Warren scouser big importer,remember the big blocks of lead from Columbia full of heroin that was him.He did 18 years in gaol in Holland only out 5 minutes and he is caught trying to import £1million cannabis into the Channel Islands.The Channel Islands have taken out a proceeds of crime against him and they are talking in terms of £198 million or he gets another 10 years,he claims he is skint.I'm delighted when i see their ill gotten gains taken from them so when they come out it's all gone,but then again is it?
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Glenn Baker]

Your so very right Jim about the Dealers, Casino,s are also the top money Launderers, Its no wonder corruption is now so obvious, gamblers are flown in free to Australian Casino,s from singapore , Thailand and other places where quite a number of Very Rich people of very suspicous repute come in and spend a Couple of Million dollars on card games at the Casino,s.
So anyone in there right mind would know if you worked hard for your money you wouldnt be putting it at the risk of a pack of cards.
The Drug industry has to be challenged and rubbed out, when you see old shipping companys like we sailed with many years ago all out of business nowadays and they were big Companys that pulled out of the Shipping Business because Markets changed.
You wonder where these strange Cruise companys of unknown names have these huge Cruise liners and where did the money come from, of course many will say oh no thats not possible but it is.
when you mention that one dealer of Drugs and talk of 198 Million pounds then it is indeed possible.
My one hope is that Drugs and Corruption become a major Election issue at the next election.

[robpage]

Looking at 57~ hey should strip hos assets and then give him ten years

[Jim Brady]

I dont think Curtis "Cocky" Warren was much of a scholar but he has a very good memory.It's hard to trace his money because he never wrote anything down,he was mentioned at one time I think it was in the Times Rich List.He was heard in his prison cell telling a cell mate that he used to launder £10 to £15 million weekly.If he has got that kind of money (£198m) why did he not retire after having spent 18years in gaol instead of going through with a deal of £1million,maybe it's the adrenalin rush.
Regards.
Jim.B.