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    Fire! Fire! Fire Down Below.

    76 Comments by Peter Copley Published on 12th January 2021 12:35 PM
    An unwanted fire anywhere is a bad thing – An unwanted fire at sea is downright dangerous. A fire safety poster I once saw on one of my ships said; ‘Remember! At Sea, You Cannot Call for the Fire Brigade.’
    I took part in numerous lifeboat and fire drills on British ships. My role in the drills was pretty basic; put stuff away or roll up the fire hose after the drill, etc. However, fire drills on the ‘Flag of Convenience’ ships I sailed on as a radio officer, were few and far between. Let’s face it, fires don’t start on these ships, do they? Or maybe they do.
    Another fire prevention poster I saw in the Mann Island Shipping Federation Offices, Liverpool read;
    ‘Bright Sparks really rather dumb, smoking near an oily drum. Doesn’t he know the oil is tinder? Soon he’ll be a ruddy cinder.’
    The poster showed a caricature picture of a sailor smoking a cigarette near an oil drum. Well, whether it was someone smoking near some oily rags or spontaneous ignition of oily rags in a bin, I don’t know, but a fire started in the engine room of my ship the SS Sapho 1 as we were halfway across the Atlantic. The smoke from the fire was enough to send the engineer and his oiler, coughing and spluttering, from the engine room. The smoke pouring out of the lantern light sent the South American and African sailors into a frenzy, rushing to the lifeboats, wanting to abandon ship. I myself had the MF transmitter warmed up, ready to send out an SOS if need be, had the fire got out of control. This wasn’t necessary, the Greek chief engineer organised a fire-fighting party and they dealt with the blaze. Luckily it was confined to a pile of rags in a storeroom. Although only a relatively minor incident, I really did admire the engineers, wearing nothing more protective than asbestos overalls and a smoke-hood, climbing down into the engine room dragging the fire hose with them. I thought at the time, climbing down through smoke and heat must be like climbing down a ladder into hell. A friendly flickering flame has a bad habit of spreading very quickly into a major conflagration. With flashovers and backdrafts, fire can, and often does, spread faster than a man can run.
    Some years later I left the sea and at the age of 28, I joined the fire brigade. In the nearly 29 years I was in the service, I attended 100s if not 1000s of fires. Fires ranging from a garden hut on fire to a six-storey mill blazing from end to end and bottom to top requiring 20 pumps and 3 turntable ladders to deal with it. From the rank of fireman (Firefighter for the PC brigade) to Station Commander I attended fires in canal boats, cars, hotels, houses, flats, schools, offices, factories, shops, woods, and on the moors. One fire, in particular, reminded me of the fire in the engine room of the SS Sapho 1. It was a fire in a sub-sub-basement of a Bradford city-center office block. My team and I had the latest fire kit, gloves, anti-flash hoods, deep penetration breathing apparatus sets, thermal imaging cameras, and high-pressure hose-reels. I staggered out of the building, totally exhausted, I just rolled over in the gutter, too tired even to take off my face mask. It was then I remembered the two engineers at sea, wearing their old asbestos Fearnaught suits, wearing a cumbersome smoke-hood, air fed by a pair of bellows manufactured in Germany in 1937, climbing down through the heat and smoke to fight a fire deep in the engine room. My heart goes out to men at sea who have to fight a fire without the benefit of being able to call up 20 fire engines to help them.
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    Bright Spark unconcerned by fire (though he has been on many ships) leaves alight the deep fat fried, he has more than had his chips!

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    strange i seem to always come upon a subject way to late but here goes - i was doing research on that great ship queen elizabeth - later seawise university - and specifically the fire in hong kong in 1972- its devastating how much damage a fire can do to a ship - if you look at the videos - the amount of water pumped on board was huge - the achille lauro also comes to mind - then one that caught my attention was the prinsendam - the morro castle - angelina lauro - and then the normandie and the list goes on and on and on - my focus has always been on passenger ships but cargo and especially oil tankers makes one think ! fire is not a sailors friend - its a fascinating subject ! there was a movie once made - called exactly that fire at sea - i have not seen the movie myself !

    this topic has led me to draw up a list of passenger ships that burnt out - a list i thought would be conclusive but no its not

    so i will plough along and come back to this subject with hopefully a complete list with corresponding images !
    fire at sea.jpg
    prinsendam.jpg

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    Was it in the walport movie box a short safety film "fire down below", which showed various scenarios about how a fire onboard could start, such as a rag draped over a cabin light to make it less bright, oily cotton waste, smoking inn your bunk and falling asleep with a lighted cigarette, plus other scenarios.
    On my first trip to sea we had a galley fire where the evening meal went up in flames, the cook activated the fire alarm and the fire was quickly controlled and extinguished. The captain told me to go to the bridge and get the duty mate to switch off the fire alarms. On arriving there he was wandering about very unworried and had not bothered to shut off the accommodation and galley exhaust fans, despite there being a notice stating that the fans should be shut off in the event of a fir alarm.
    He was totally unbothered about there having been a fire onboard until I told him that it had been a galley fire when he got very upset to find it was only sarnies for evening meal untill the electrician could repair the galley stove and oven.
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    While I am not complaining, more relived of my lack of experience.
    As a cadet a holding-on coil for a generator circuit breaker on a 220v DC open switchboard burst into flames. I pressed the button to trip the breaker, took a deep breath and blew the flames out.
    As 4/E I was driving a lathe and the Indian Serang appeared and said "Sahib, Sahib fire coming". I told my junior to phone the bridge while I went with the Serang to the Alternator flat. I could see that the running alternator had caught fire and it was spreading along the top. Five of the Indian crew were stood in a line with portable foam extinguishers so I grabbed an extinguisher and climbed on to the platform. Knowing that we were mid-Pacific I stopped the engine which blacked the ship out and with no more fuel being pumped almost put out the flames when the crew decided to copy my example so thoroughly that it took the third two days and lecky three to clear the foam. There was no criticism of their enthusiasm.
    Another incident while I was J/2/E involved the 2/E tripping the CO2 alarm. We cleared the engine room tout suite but as we were approaching the Dover Straits and it was not known how many bottles had been discharged. I donned a BA set and with engine rev orders shouted down to the main deck I kept descending to the controls to make the alterations.

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    If there had been any amount of CO2 in the engine room surely the engine would have cut out. Sorry but to don a BA set and enter an unknown atmosphere that may have been lacking in O2, to me pretty fool hardy thing to do Dover straits or not!!!!

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    Smoking while tippsy or plain drunk. Had a steward on a tanker in Swansea. fell asleep with a ciggy in his mouth there was a fire in his cabin, he died but we were lucky to put th fire out.
    My mate who jumped in Aus , had a letter from his wife he had fallen asleep drunk on the sofa, died, sad really, all just to put carcinogens in the lungs.
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=co2+...obile&ie=UTF-8
    The link gives the regulations concerning co2 installation on merchant vessels as a fixed fire fighting system.
    To activate the system is a two stage operation from a control cabinet situated outside the space it is designed to protect. On opening the cabinet door the co2 release alarm will start, there are two handles/levers inside, the first one will release the firing bank of the installation which can then when the second lever is pulled this charges the line that is connected to all the other cylinders opening up all the cylinders that are then discharged into the space. The reason for the two stage operation is to ensure all ventilation to the space is stopped (fans will automatically stop when the cabinet door is opened and alarm starts) all fire dampers are closed and all personnel evacuated.
    Don't think it is an actual requirement but every vessel is was on the discharge nozzles were fitted with a device that created a high pitched noise when gas through it.
    There is also a hand valve in the line after the banks of co2 cylinders that can be closed to prevent accidental discharge when annual servicing and maintenance is carried out.
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