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John Blythe
15th May 2011, 02:32 PM
hi im looking for ex crew from the 80s sailed with everards (ie falklands)

Gulliver
15th May 2011, 04:48 PM
Everards....The falklands?

I always thought you signed Foreign in that company when going South of Ushant:D:confused::rolleyes:


No,No,Michael,there you go again...


You only sign Foreign when going south of Liverpool.....:eek:

happy daze john in oz
16th May 2011, 06:35 AM
No,No,Michael,there you go again...


You only sign Foreign when going south of Liverpool.....:eek:

Silly me I thought all foreingers lived north of Watford Gap.

Gulliver
16th May 2011, 07:20 AM
Silly me I thought all foreingers lived north of Watford Gap.


Ho Happy DazeJohn in Oz !

...and "foreingers" (sic) living south of the Equator are known as ........Savages ! :eek:


Gulliver

Gulliver
16th May 2011, 07:31 AM
hi im looking for ex crew from the 80s sailed with everards (ie falklands)




Hi John .Welcome Aboard.
 
I was interested in your suggestion to think that Everards might have participated in the STUFT-” Ships Taken Up From Trade”- during the Falklands War.

I couldn’t find any HERE(STUFT) (http://www.naval-history.net/F22mnships.htm) but do you or anyone else perhaps have any other information to support the suggestion?

Best Regards
Gulliver

John Blythe
16th May 2011, 11:31 PM
try the linconbrook and lesterbrook both in falklands and both everards ships

happy daze john in oz
17th May 2011, 03:36 AM
Ho Happy DazeJohn in Oz !

...and "foreingers" (sic) living south of the Equator are known as ........Savages ! :eek:


Gulliver

Well Guliver, those of us living in Victoria are known by the people of N.S.W. and Queensland as 'Mexicans'. Well we are south of the border!

Ivan Cloherty
17th May 2011, 08:16 AM
try the linconbrook and lesterbrook both in falklands and both everards ships

John

Were not the "Leicesterbrook" and the "Lincolnbrook" Comben Longstaff ships unless Everards had taken over management of them, but I thought it was much later than 1982 when Combens farmed their ships out for management.

Regards

Ivan

corrientes
17th May 2011, 09:26 AM
I think you will find that Everards took over Longstaffs in 1980.

Ivan Cloherty
17th May 2011, 11:07 AM
I think you will find that Everards took over Longstaffs in 1980.

Thanks Corrientes

Kind of lost touch with them after moving abroad in 1973, was with Combens 1964 - 1973 as
2/m, 1/m and Supt, knew that Everards where involved but didn't have the dates

Thanks again

Ivan

Gulliver
17th May 2011, 12:29 PM
Thank You “ Corrientes”,that explains it.The ‘Everard ships were really Comben Longstaff ships which retained their names when Comben Longstaff was taken over in 1980.

(Reading into a part history of Comben Longstaff,published by Mark Rowbotham in Shipping Today & Yesterday-May 2010)

 
‘On 30th April 1980 the ownership of Comben Longstaff was transferred to F.T.Everard & Sons Ltd.
The 9 Comben Longstaff ships were quickly integrated into the Everards fleet,retaining their names and hull colouring,but with Everards funnel colours.
 
The Leicesterbrook and Lincolnbrook were the two ships which sailed for the Falklands in late 82.Both were of 1,599 grt built 76/7,and unlike the usual Comben Longstaff vessels,were fitted from new with hydraulic cranes which proved very reliable in operation.
They made several voyages to the Falklands carrying a variety of military hardware and stores and were particularly well-suited to the transport of Chinook helicopters. “
 
Fates:
LEICESTERBROOK Sold 1991. Foundered SE of Cabo Verde Islands 15.10.99.
LINCOLNBROOK (Pic below) Sold 1986 . Foundered mid-N.Atlantic 30.01.08
 
Gulliver

EIFION
21st May 2011, 03:35 PM
Everards were also in the suez crises of the 50's. and had two ships trading in New Zealand carying bulk cement , the ethel everard renamed Guardian carrier was one. They also traded regularly Kings Lynn to Casablanca and on the Russian run, some coasters dont you think?

Ivan Cloherty
23rd May 2011, 04:49 PM
Everards were also in the suez crises of the 50's. and had two ships trading in New Zealand carying bulk cement , the ethel everard renamed Guardian carrier was one. They also traded regularly Kings Lynn to Casablanca and on the Russian run, some coasters dont you think?

I was on the "Speciality" in 1958 as 2/m

I was also in SUEZ 1956 invasion on the lead convoy commodore ship "Salinas" going into Suez on 6th November, cannot recall any Everard ships, do you know which ones they were.

Agree with you that a lot of "Coasting" ships went deep sea on long voyages, the old "Cornishbrook" 1400grt went across the North Atlantic a few times, bounced around a bit though!!!!!!

Ivan

John Blythe
23rd May 2011, 09:00 PM
i was on the singularity in 81 and i was out in states, mexaco . and dare i say it she went though the canel to columbia ,and also they had another ship out there the jack walton

alun2504
24th May 2011, 08:13 AM
well boys i was a land lubber by the 80 s but was on the good old ft in 67, kirkness to workington newcastle run, ah those northern lights and them ffiords, memories boys enjoy them

nickburt
12th September 2011, 03:14 PM
The Leicesterbrook and Lincolnbrook weren't the only Everard ships on the Falklands run, the Singularity and the Jack Wharton also made several trips into Port Stanley - I sailed on both of them in '82 & '83.

David Payne
6th January 2012, 10:11 PM
My dad John Payne sailed on the Leisterbrook to the Falklands, but this was just after the conflict finished.
They took down chinocks seakings and fixed wing aircraft load in boxes. The chinocks flew the boxes into Ridham Docks and they were then stripped down and loaded onboard. I know he spent Christmas of 82/83 onboard as I bought the christmas tree for the crew mess!! Another name I can remember was a AB called Chris Bent. Dad was also on the Jack Warton running down to LIbera and the med, the Stability and Ligar Bay, and loads more. Everards sponsered my brother through sea school in 1986 and he did one trip with them on the Lincoln brook I think. Dads still at sea on DFDS at Dover but probably finishing up soon.

nickburt
7th January 2012, 07:04 PM
David, my memory isn't too good for names, but I may well have sailed with your Dad. I did a lot of time on the Jack Wharton, Stability and the Ligar Bay in the early to mid 80s.
Med, West Coast of Africa etc...

Captain Kong
7th January 2012, 08:40 PM
In 1952 I used to go in the Office of Everards in Greenhythe, and Ethel was a secretary , she was lovely, and at the age of 17, I fell in love with her. BUT only at a distance.
If I had married her , I WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR BOSS.
I last heard of her when she married a vicar, dont know if it is true. she took over her fathers, FRED , company.
In 2006 Everard sold out to James Fisher and Sons in the 24 million deal;

David Payne
7th January 2012, 11:04 PM
David, my memory isn't too good for names, but I may well have sailed with your Dad. I did a lot of time on the Jack Wharton, Stability and the Ligar Bay in the early to mid 80s.
Med, West Coast of Africa etc...

Hi there
My dad spent a long time on them three ships and also a few more. When he pays off wednesday I
will ask him what other ships he was on. We live in Sittingbourne, and if you was running into Ridham on the Jack Warton my grandad used to pick the guys up and drop them into town so they could go on the lash and them pick them up and take them back at chucking out time.
He was on the Ligar Bay running up the Thames and finished on her when they got rid of her and replace her with a new Ligar Bay which I think was red, but he didn't sail on her. She had a blue circle funnel on her if I remember right.
I presume your name is Nick Burt so I will run it passed him wednesday, but he is pretty crap at names, what did you do onboard?

EIFION
8th January 2012, 12:28 AM
Ivan all i can tell you about the everard ships at suez crises is that they were tankers, presumably the war time tankers that were originally built for the government but purchased by everards at the end of hostilities with japan

Elwyn J R Williams
26th October 2015, 09:03 PM
Hi Guys,
Perhaps I can Help, I joined Comben Longstaff as 3/O on the Devonbrook Apr 1980, We were taken over (Owned) by Freds before I left the ship in August 1980. Too big for Fred, the DevonBrook & Durhambrook were both quickly sold on. In late 1982 4 of Freds ships were chartered for the Falkland run. they were Lincolnbrook, Leicesterbrook, Singularity & the Jack Wharton, however the later 2 were dropped fairly quickly as they were not so versatile for helicopter ops & tween deck use + to be brutally frank not so reliable! I went down to the Falklands twice, on the Leicesterbrook 1983 & Lincolnbrook 1984, I'm pretty sure they would have been kept on the run a lot longer, but there was getting to be very little in the way of return cargo. (I have sailed on all 4 of these ships & without doubt the Lincoln & Leicester were the far better sea boats for this kind of run. I have photos from then but they are on another website (Shipsnostalgia). I hope this helps you.

john gamble
30th March 2016, 07:56 AM
Was told a few tall tales by some of the crew off the leicesterbrook re falklands,mainly regarding how much of a nuisance the cranes were,and how the strong room was breached and welded up again using a couple of scrapers as filler !
Jack myles (give yourself plenty of room to manoeuvre) from northern Ireland was old man in 87 with pete brannigan as mate ,secord was our Sidney , ex fleet air arm. (Capt , the low level alarm has gone off on my gin bottle !)chief was Alan somebody , (not gander !)second oily person was big Pauline with a couple of totally mad cornish men as relief. Mad Erik (wonder if he's still alive !)was cook , so many names and faces now lost.....

john gamble
30th March 2016, 08:27 AM
Without doubt the leicesterbrook was a good sea keeper , had a great flare to the bows which definitely helped us when Michael Fish got it rather wrong in 87...took us six days to get from uddevalla to belfast instead of usual 3, so much for checking the timber lashings ,apart from sounding the wells ,no one went on deck for a wee while.....we lost about 2/3rds of the deck cargo with chainsaws having to be used in b'fast to clear the main deck.the window wipers on the bridge were bent to buggery ,thank goodness for the Kent clearview.very aware of only having a single engine and screw ! especially when hearing the odd pan or mayday call.
Thanks to the dogs on the lids no deck cargo shifted , (unlike the later timber boats like selectivity and the pamela everard,nightmare !plus using webbing instead of wires wasn't really going to work....chafe) but wires parted when we were taking green oggin half way up the foremast.
All the fun of the fair!

john gamble
31st March 2016, 12:49 PM
Sailed with chris bent on leicesterbrook in late 80s.he'd been made up to 2nd mate by then.one red-painted sea boot and one green.....hair down to the shoulders.

Elwyn J R Williams
26th August 2016, 07:57 PM
Everards did in fact take over Comben Longstaff in 1980 we arrived on the Devonbrook in Egersund in Norway to be greeted by a deputation from FTEverards. I spent a fair amount of time on the Lincolnbrook & Leicesterbrook down to the Falklands & around Europe + the Londonbrook too mainly Denmark & Sweden. Best ships Fred's had, but they were a bit to silly to realise their potential.

Gulliver
27th August 2016, 07:09 AM
Sailed with chris bent on leicesterbrook in late 80s.he'd been made up to 2nd mate by then.one red-painted sea boot and one green.....hair down to the shoulders.

Appropriate surname I suspect!
One red and one green sea boot .Well that's OK as a reminder -as long as he didn't put them on the wrong feet -but he sounds the type of character who probably would !

I suppose the Old Man would have had a lot of sleepless nights-or perhaps took the route to 'oblivion' in the bottle !:Sinking:

Tony Skilton
20th July 2017, 02:33 PM
I was very surprised to read in David's post (#20, of 2012), that there were two 'Ligar Bay's'. I sailed as 4th/3rd/2/E on diesel electric vessel 'Ligar Bay, (built in Leith in 1964) when it was being operated by the Tarakohe Shipping Company in NZ, for Golden Bay Cement of Wellington. Ligar Bay was actually the next bay around the bluff from the Golden Bay Cement Works at Tarakohe, in New Zealand's South Island and I would sometimes walk around there when the ship overnighted at the cement loading berth.
The ship operated in NZ from 1964 to 1979, when an Everards crew came out to NZ and took her back to the UK for service with Blue Circle Cement for a few years before she then went to the Caribbean, where she was blown ashore in hurricanes on two occasions, finally being scrapped after the second event. The propulsion plant was 2 x English Electric 8RK engines driving DC generators which drove the propulsion motors. When in port, one main engine/generator was used to run the bulk cement cargo discharge machinery.
When light ship this vessel could roll something terrible. In Cook Strait one night, after leaving Wellington and heading for Tarakohe, she rolled so violently the top 8 feet of the fore mast was snapped off - took the radio aerials with it as well when it went overboard! With bugger-all freeboard when loaded, she was also a 'wet' ship (see photo), plus, with her very short funnel, she was always pumping engine exhaust gases back into the accommodation air conditioning intakes. Can't actually call her a 'vomit comet' as she was too slow! Steered like an absolute pig as well!

Attached are some photos in and around the old girl.

Skilly


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john gamble
29th April 2020, 07:13 PM
Jack Wharton.

john gamble
29th April 2020, 07:31 PM
The Leicesterbrook had a b&w alpha V18 cant remember the hp, could run on heavy or regular .