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    Hi Brian.
    To put it in perspective the demos in the cities in Aus was meant to be a demonstration to reclaim Australia from the immigrants, but someone promoted a counter demo for the immigrants, the usual lots of time to spare Uni students were involved in the anti one. and the ensuing fights were enough to have the police get involved and of course the future will tell who was right.
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    The problem in many countries today is one and the same minority parties who shout the most and the loudest. For some reason the polis take notice of them.
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    My main concern of the changing of the flag was that the Red Ensign would disappear but i have been assured by a local mp it will not lets wait and see

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    Whenever I see that European Union Flag if that is what it is, makes one want to puke, it represents nothing apart from a bunch of posturing politicians who think they are all statesmen or women of the highest calibre, when in fact they are a bunch mostly of no hopers. Who can be proud of a flag like that, to me it represents nothing. No history whatsoever, if one asked one about the 100 years war Britain fought with France, or even the last war with Germany, they wouldn't want to know what you were talking about. A country is a place where a certain language is spoken, customs and religions observed, people of a like mind come together and make their own Laws and manner of living. Today one has a smouldering pot full of radicals wanting to fly their own individual flags, force their own way of life and religion on others, how this came about was by breaking our own borders and securitys, listening to a bunch of wimps calling themselves politicians who in turn are being directed by a bunch of bleeding hearts trying to correct the ills of the world, which originally started by the wimps in power not minding their own business and tending their work to the good of their own country in the end it is the man in the street who is called out to fight and protect the country and these ones who were responsible in the first case. When Britain put the first lot of troops into th Middle East in recent times I read and Article in the paper about T Bliar jumping around in jubilation, must of thought he was playing with his lead soldiers. This report was supposed to have come from one of his own rank and file. As was the press again don't know how much truth in it, but would be inclined to believe the mentality of that government at the time. JS

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    I agree #24, most flags have colours etc that have a significance to the history of the nation. Maybe those in charge of the EU think thye are stars.
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    As soon as the general public realize they don't have supermen telling them what to do and think, the better. A lot have now done this from being better educated. They are ordinary men and women who go into politics as a career, with the same high hopes as most of making a good living, and like most in normal careers don't mind stepping on others to get there. They have the obvious advantage of having the facilities to hoodwink the public by trendy people who make a living by writing speeches and such, the same as most pop groups a good PR man can make them. They will lie and cheat to get what they want, and if make it have so many years to consolidate their position for another trip on the gravy train, if they don't, they get out more than amply rewarded for a lacklustre career of self indulgence and being again rewarded for advancing the country nowhere. I know a couple of youngsters who are doing political Science as a degree and wonder to myself what can they do, although nice young people they will be going into politics without any knowledge of the world apart from political slogans and no earthly chance of enforcing their beliefs which most people in the past have fallen over themselves and voted for. Most politicians put them in any other environment and they would be lost. JS

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    This is from a mate who lives in Queensland about Australia. He is a Fair Dinkum Oz served in Malaya IN THE 50s with
    2 RAR. Is That how you see it??
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    You can say what you like but Australia is rooted folks. Completely rooted. There are some things that we cannot recover from and one of them is seven years of Labor follies and free-for-all spending. This time - unlike past times- they have simply gone too far. There's some stuff you just cannot recover from.


    No Liberal Government can work miracles with what they have been left with this time. It took Howard and Costello 10 years to pay off the last Labor debt. But that was a paltry 80 billion, give or take a quid.


    In the meantime, Australia has a new population of freshly 'adult' bogans who were 12 when Kevin hit the rostrum pounding out his already tired and undeliverable slogans to the 'faithful'- who are now of course unable to get a job. But able to vote Labor. You have a new raft of university students working their way through Student Councils and Socialist Alliances doing psychology and Arts degrees with no real hope of ever getting a job using them.


    I spoke to a kid in our town the other day, a lovely little girl with two degrees in psychology who simply cannot get a job in anything that involves psychology - so she works as a waitress in a coffee shop for 10 dollars an hour and has done so for the past three years. It's the only work she can get despite going for a million non related jobs last year.



    And there are bus loads of other kids in the same boat.


    As I type this, Australian icons like GM-H are being torn down in Melbourne and Adelaide. These once highly productive buildings are hitting the ground - one by one. In a few weeks, the buildings where our Nation's car was manufactured will just be dusty paddocks being salivated over by men who develop $500,000 two bedroom concrete apartments.


    Even Ford, which had proudly produced Australian versions of the global brand for 90 years this year, is being pulled apart and sent to Sims the scrap metal man. Thousands of workers can never expect to get a job in the car industry again. Okay, perhaps if you are 60 - but not if you are 37. Finished. Sure you will still be able to buy a ‘Ford’ or a 'Holden', except it will be a European or American Ford and a Taiwanese or Korean Holden that is in fact a Chev.


    The sad thing about this is that I am old enough to remember being driven down the High Street in my father's lime green and white Holden FB to see the unveiling of the fabled EH in 1964, which had been under a sheet in the window of Burnside and McClure for an agonising 48 hours.


    The whole bloody suburb had turned out. I was 10. You could have unveiled Sophia Loren giving the Italian Navy one next door and every eye would have been watching as the Actil was pulled off the mint green Station Wagon Premier. (Oooh! It's called a- a - Premier! - gasped one faint mother) its iridescent flanks gleaming as the door was flung open to reveal... leather seats! A thousand young bottoms which had only ever felt hot vinyl gasped as well.


    More gasps from the faint mothers. We looked at the badges - a 179 cubic inch monster rested beneath the glassy bonnet threatening to destroy the four inch cross-ply tyres .



    I thought, “Wow - Australia is a great place to be”.


    Now imagine that happening outside a Hyundai showroom today. Nah - the dream is gone. Our dreamtime is over. We have nothing to look forward to.
    Even the Bogan faithful are strangely torn - no more V8s and no more Ford v Holden punch ups. 'Life's a bitch'.


    There are literally hundreds of other factories too that have taken down the shingles- unable to make anything in this country anymore because margins and unbending union demands have made the fight a waste of time and a waste of whatever dough is left over. Which isn't much.


    Meanwhile, the unions under Labor came back like a freight train with a dose of herpes and did as much damage as they could in seven years, which is why several have been sent to jail and the others are flat out with their lawyers trying to explain away how they needed $500k salaries and prostitutes and trips to Paris to do their jobs effectively.


    And idiots like Shorten not only helped to put them in power - but backed them when the **** hit the fan. They produce nothing. They simply destroy when unshackled by a government rabble that spawned them.


    New Zealand is a winner though. They work for a bit less than we do and factories are moving there and for the first time in decades they are really producing stuff.
    And their dollar is on the up as a result.


    But we will wallow in the self pity of the global crisis, which was Rudd’s and Swan's favourite two words, and blame it on the rest of the world.


    Even our mining sector is slowly sinking into the unknown. Prices are down for iron ore because other countries have gotten on to the band wagon and China doesn't care where it comes from as long as it is cheap. You can even buy our gas in China cheaper than you can buy it here. Go figure! So Melbourne and Sydney aren't quite Detroit just yet.


    But visit You Tube and take a look at Detroit these days and you can see the end result of things that get stuffed up by people. With no hope of a transfusion.



    No pulse at all. Completely rooted.


    And Labor wants to get back. And there are a ****load of morons who are waiting to vote them back in too. And when asked the other day about what his dream for Australia is when he gets in - Shorten said, "Everybody is somebody”. Can you believe it? Sadly Bill that ain't gonna cut it you moron! Then he rabbited on about more university edukation and free university edukation which as I've just pointed out Bill is bloody useless because there are no friggin' jobs mate! Thanks to you lot and the bloody greedy unions and their even greedier bloody union bosses.


    Like I said, brace yourself, because if these suckers get back in we are really rooted. But be comforted in the knowledge that, according to the man who wants your vote, 'Everybody is somebody'. F**k! I feel so rosy just knowing that. Worse still, it's the sort of thing that idiot Kevin Rudd would say.


    There is an upside though. Clive, the man who loved to be called a billionaire is apparently down to his last 200 mil. The Titanic has sunk, the dinosaurs are out to pasture and the resort is getting a repaint. Or it has been mothballed. I get the feeling that when he runs out of the green stuff altogether, he might have trouble staying in Canberra.


    If only Shorten could go the same way.






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    that oz story is so true of this country ....word for word .......the left can only spend and tax and can not create the atmosphere to create wealth.....only spend what we havnt got until the well runs dry again and again......i couldnt give a toss if my boss was a billionaire as long as i got paid what i was due .........if he doesnt do that he has no labour ........but time and time again the working man goes without because of the leftist dogma ......when will they ever learn ses the song .......nice to see bliar supporting grommit .....thats like having crabs of a bird and going back for a full house......jeez if it wasnt so bloody sad it would make the best comedy ever .....a very sad englishman ........regards cappy

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    Brian, to some degree your mate is correct. The car industry is gone, but simply there were not enough being sold locally. more overseas cars coming in, better models and in many cases cheaper. Thanks to Labor wages re way out of line with much of the world an we now try t compete with Asian countries where wage area quarter of our. Constant union demands for wages with no productivity have made things worse, but the bogans will vote Labor, the party of the hand outs. The Liberal party tries to bring finance under control, get kicked out because they have to hand out some tough measures to get back on an even keel. The last Labor gov under Rudd the dud did more damage to the economy in 7 years than the Labor arty as a whole since federation in 1901. Since then there has only been one year 1986 when a Labor gov has produced a balanced budget. But for all of that it is still great place to live.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

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    That just sounds like Britain John, The Labour Party screwing up the Nation.
    Cheers
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