tides

[Peter Trodden]

Hi Alec,
no we missed the ice,it was Sept,1961 and we did Three Rivers,Quebec and Montreal then back to Liverpool. The winter was coming so I always headed for warmer parts.My next ship was the "BARRISTER" West Indies run.
ttfn.Peter.

[Trader]

Nice one Peter, you could do that in those days couldn't you.? We were unlucky on the Manchester Vanguard as we should have been home for Christmas but we got some ice damage around the bow and no.1 hold and had to go in drydock in the States. We got home in February and went on to a Yeoward charter for the winter. Liverpool to Canary Islands, seed potatoes and general out and tomatoes, bananas and new potatoes home. Then back on the Lakes in May. A good little number.

Alec.

[John Albert Evans]

Castleman is correct.
I lived in Kentville, NS from 2001 to 2004.
It was near New Minas.
The tides came down the Bay of Fundy and into the New MInas Basin, what a sight it is.
I often used to go to Harbourville about 8 miles from where i lived and watch it come in.

John Evans

[Captain Gordon Whittaker]

Yes I was there and the next winter also! I was a young lad and cried for my Mother when shaken with cold! I finally spent more than a month's wages on Canadian winter gear, including "Mukkuluks", when I finally handled the freezing weather. Do any of you remember !Mukkuluks" ? First time with warm feet, thanks to the Eskimos. Do not try to hook on flags without gloves at minus 40 degrees. You will lose some skin!. Cunard had flag drill stricter than "Grey Funnel Line". Flags up in correct sequence at exactly 0800. and down at exactly calculated sunset. Ensigns dipped at sea with great courtesy, Apprentices always on call,

[Ivan Cloherty]

Cunard had flag drill stricter than "Grey Funnel Line". Flags up in correct sequence at exactly 0800. and down at exactly calculated sunset. Ensigns dipped at sea with great courtesy, Apprentices always on call,

Flag etiquette sounds similar to PSNC in the 50's, like you we were always on call for it, but somehow we didn't mind and it 0800 and sunset etc and it was always great to see someone on the Grey Funnel line running like mad along to aft to return our dipping, you would have thought that they knew they were going to get dipped to and have someone already there, as even the scruffiest tramps used to dip to the GFL I know because I sailed on some later on

Ivan

[happy daze john in oz]

I spent quite a while with Manchester Liners and went to St. John several times. What a work up for the nightwatchman and donkeyman as the old steam winches were run on slow all night to prevent freezing up as mentioned by Capt.W.

If I remember correctly I think we doubled up on the deck nightwatchman as it was too much for one man to manage the gangway and moorings.

Here is a photo that I took of the Manchester Vanguard stuck in the ice in the St. Lawrence in December 1958. The Arabia was stuck with us, were you there then Capt.W. and Peter.

Alec.

Just out of curiosity, have afriend who spent most of his time with them, but why were they so called when many of the were cargo ships???

[Ivan Cloherty]

Just out of curiosity, have afriend who spent most of his time with them, but why were they so called when many of the were cargo ships???

Hello John

"Liners" was a term normally used when ships were on a regular run, thus differentiating them from "Tramps" this enabled shippers to know that their goods had a chance of getting there on time. The Liners normally had scheduled sailings, some twice a week from the same port (when ships were smaller)

It had really nothing to do with passenger numbers or accommodation, although most did provide that for 12 passengers, any more than 12 a doctor had to be carried.

Ivan

[Captain Gordon Whittaker]

I remember the "Arabia" hard and fast. We used toi visit Manchester Liners, to socialise with the cadets, but mainly in "Newfie" and Nova Scotia. I certainly recall boarding the Manchester Regiment a few times, and my mate fetching some beer from the Liquor Commission for an illegal party. Cunard apprentices were not allowed alchohol. It stated in our indentures:- "The said apprentice is forbidden to visit ale-houses, taverns, or houses of ill repute". Yeah! Right! We obeyed this, NOT!

[Gordon Turnbull]

Definitely not the highest tide in the world but I do remember coming back from ashore one night on one of Fred's to see it sitting on top of the mud in Depford Creek. Newlyn in Cornwall has a fair sized tide as well if I remember correctly?

[Keith Tindell]

Hi, As i now do a bit of sailing in small yachts, the Channel Islands have a rise and fall of 30 feet at times, with the Alderny race reaching 8knts plus