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9th January 2019, 10:02 PM
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Hello everyone ,just signed up ,I am researching the Merchant Navy career of my late father at the age of 18 he joined the crew of the Empress of Scotland at Liverpool on the 22nd May 1947 as a deck boy , I have his discharge book and he did 6 trips on the Empress from 22nd May 1947 to 3rd of May 1948 ,I am looking to fill in the gaps of where he went and ports of call ,what he may of experienced ,I have found ports of call for the 1st voyage 22nd May to 27th July and am amazed at how far he travelled , his name was Robert (Bob) Ashworth, all I remember is very vague childhood memories of him recalling about rough crossings and everyone being seasick ,one thing I have found out that I did not realise is she was still a troop ship ,he was also on the oil tanker Teakwood from 4.6.1948 to 3.11.1948 and that is as much as I know, any detail anyone can add to this will be much appreciated .
Pete.
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9th January 2019, 10:16 PM
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Re: Hello everyone
Hello Peter
Welcome to the site and I hope we may be able to assist in some ways!
At present all I can offer is that you get his Voyage Record
Cards from the Guildhall Library which will have the Ports etc that his Ships he was on went to.
They are informative ,I got mine from there some time back.
I know that still do them at a cost !
Cheers
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/thin...e-history.aspx
https://uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/5925.html Ship Teakwood
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Wartime Managed t get this online just Lucky.
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From |
Date |
To |
Date |
Distance |
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Vancouver |
02/12/39 |
Esquimalt |
2/12/39 |
80 |
miles |
Esquimalt |
3/12/39 |
Sydney |
22/12/39 |
6785 |
" |
Sydney |
2/1/40 |
Melbourne |
3/1/40 |
385 |
" |
Melbourne |
12/1/40 |
Freemantle |
18/1/40 |
1801 |
" |
Freemantle |
20/1/40 |
Colombo |
29/1/40 |
3210 |
" |
Colombo |
1/2/40 |
Aden |
8/1/40 |
2178 |
" |
Aden |
9/2/40 |
Port Said |
13/2/40 |
1342 |
" |
Port Said |
17/2/40 |
Aden |
20/2/40 |
1322 |
" |
Aden |
20/2/40 |
Colombo |
26/2/40 |
2216 |
" |
Colombo |
25/2/40 |
Freemantle |
4/3/40 |
3194 |
" |
Freemantle |
4/3/40 |
Sydney |
10/3/40 |
2238 |
" |
Sydney |
29/3/40 |
Wellington |
1/4/40 |
1247 |
" |
Wellington |
2/3/40 |
Freemantle |
10/5/40 |
3585 |
" |
Freemantle |
12/5/40 |
Cape Town |
2/6/40 |
6155 |
" |
Cape Town |
30/5/40 |
Durban |
2/6/40 |
853 |
" |
Durban |
4/6/40 |
Mombassa |
9/6/40 |
1797 |
" |
Mombassa |
10/6/40 |
Singapore |
19/6/40 |
4031 |
" |
Singapore |
20/6/40 |
Hong Kong |
23/6/40 |
1461 |
" |
Hong Kong |
1/7/40 |
Manila |
3/7/40 |
641 |
" |
Manila |
3/7/40 |
Hong Kong |
5/7/40 |
625 |
" |
Hong Kong |
5/7/40 |
Manila |
7/7/40 |
634 |
" |
Manila |
8/7/40 |
Hong Kong |
10/7/40 |
640 |
" |
Hong Kong |
3/8/40 |
Sydney |
16/7/40 |
4903 |
" |
Sydney |
17/8/40 |
Wellington |
20/8/40 |
1250 |
" |
Wellington |
28/8/40 |
Freemantle |
4/9/40 |
3112 |
" |
Freemantle |
5/9/40 |
Bombay |
15/9/40 |
4093 |
" |
Bombay |
19/9/40 |
Suez |
29/9/40 |
3377 |
" |
Suez |
8/10/40 |
Durban |
22/10/40 |
5017 |
" |
Durban |
24/10/40 |
Glasgow |
10/11/40 |
8163 |
" |
Glasgow |
1/12/40 |
Belfast |
1/12/40 |
75 |
" |
Belfast |
29/12/40 |
Glasgow |
29/12/40 |
77 |
" |
Glasgow |
18/1/41 |
Freetown |
25/1/41 |
4384 |
" |
Freetown |
29/1/41 |
Cape Town |
8/2/41 |
3265 |
" |
Cape Town |
12/2/41 |
Mombassa |
22/2/41 |
2972 |
" |
Mombasa |
24/2/41 |
Bombay |
3/3/41 |
2499 |
" |
Bombay |
3/3/41 |
Singapore |
11/3/41 |
2694 |
" |
Singapore |
23/3/41 |
Colombo |
26/3/41 |
1636 |
" |
Colombo |
29/3/41 |
Bombay |
31/3/41 |
1029 |
" |
Bombay |
5/4/41 |
Cape Town |
18/4/41 |
4888 |
" |
Cape Town |
23/4/41 |
St. Helena |
27/4/41 |
1386 |
" |
St. Helena |
27/4/41 |
Freetown |
1/5/41 |
2077 |
" |
Freetown |
3/5/41 |
Gibraltar |
8/5/41 |
2458 |
" |
Gibraltar |
9/5/41 |
Glasgow |
15/5/41 |
2651 |
" |
Glasgow |
3/6/41 |
Freetown |
16/6/41 |
4127 |
" |
Freetown |
20/8/41 |
Cape Town |
1/7/41 |
3260 |
" |
Cape Town |
5/7/41 |
Bombay |
22/7/41 |
5047 |
" |
Bombay |
27/7/41 |
Colombo |
30/7/41 |
990 |
" |
Colombo |
1/8/41 |
Singapore |
5/8/41 |
1633 |
" |
Singapore |
10/8/41 |
Vancouver |
29/8/41 |
9358 |
" |
Vancouver |
30/9/41 |
San Pedro |
3/10/41 |
1159 |
" |
San Pedro |
4/10/41 |
Balboa |
10/10/41 |
3527 |
" |
Balboa |
11/10/41 |
Glasgow |
22/10/41 |
5237 |
" |
Glasgow |
13/11/41 |
Freetown |
24/11/41 |
3687 |
" |
Freetown |
2/11/41 |
Durban |
18/12/41 |
5222 |
" |
Durban |
23/12/41 |
Bombay |
6/1/42 |
4311 |
" |
Bombay |
19/1/42 |
Singapore |
29/1/42 |
3541 |
" |
Singapore |
31/1/42 |
Batavia |
2/2/42 |
531 |
" |
Batavia |
2/2/42 |
Colombo |
6/2/42 |
2157 |
" |
Colombo |
13/2/42 |
Durban |
21/2/42 |
4204 |
" |
Durban |
25/2/42 |
Cape Town |
27/2/42 |
875 |
" |
Cape Town |
1/3/42 |
Liverpool |
18/3/42 |
7877 |
" |
Liverpool |
12/4/42 |
Glasgow |
13/4/42 |
192 |
" |
Glasgow |
1/4/42 |
Freetown |
29/4/42 |
4249 |
" |
Freetown |
3/5/42 |
Durban |
18/5/42 |
4304 |
" |
Durban |
19/5/42 |
Cape Town |
21/5/42 |
984 |
" |
Cape Town |
27/5/42 |
Halifax |
10/6/42 |
7315 |
" |
Halifax |
16/6/42 |
Glasgow |
23/6/42 |
2515 |
" |
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Glasgow |
17/7/42 |
Freetown |
28/7/42 |
3924 |
" |
Freetown |
1/8/42 |
Cape Town |
13/8/42 |
3657 |
" |
Cape Town |
16/8/42 |
Aden |
29/6/42 |
4499 |
" |
Aden |
29/8/42 |
Suez |
1/9/42 |
1327 |
" |
Suez |
3/9/42 |
Durban |
14/9/42 |
5549 |
" |
Durban |
20/9/42 |
Glasgow |
7/10/42 |
8316 |
" |
Glasgow |
29/10/42 |
Bahia |
15/11/42 |
5595 |
" |
Bahia |
19/11/42 |
Durban |
4/12/42 |
4362 |
" |
Durban |
9/12/42 |
New York |
29/12/42 |
9535 |
" |
New York |
8/1/43 |
Glasgow |
13/1/43 |
3477 |
" |
Glasgow |
23/1/43 |
Halifax |
28/1/43 |
2562 |
" |
Halifax |
5/2/43 |
Gla8gow |
11/2/43 |
3142 |
" |
Glasgow |
20/2/43 |
New York |
25/2/43 |
3862 |
" |
New York |
24/3/43 |
Liverpool |
31/3/43 |
3765 |
" |
Liverpool |
5/4/43 |
New York |
14/4/43 |
3932 |
" |
New York |
22/4/43 |
Casablanca |
30/4/43 |
3996 |
" |
Casablanca |
1/6/43 |
Halifax |
7/5/43 |
3022 |
" |
Halifax |
17/5/43 |
Liverpool |
24/5/43 |
3455 |
" |
Liverpool |
29/5/43 |
Halifax |
6/6/43 |
3471 |
" |
Halifax |
11/6/43 |
Liverpool |
18/6/43 |
3208 |
" |
Liverpool |
24/6/43 |
Newport News |
2/7/43 |
3876 |
" |
Newport News |
7/7/43 |
Casablanca |
15/7/43 |
3840 |
" |
Casablanca |
17/7/43 |
Newport News |
25/7/43 |
3711 |
" |
Newport News |
30/7/43 |
Casablanca |
6/8/43 |
3693 |
" |
Casablanca |
8/8/43 |
New York |
16/8/43 |
3824 |
" |
New York |
4/10/43 |
Newport News |
5/10/43 |
292 |
" |
Newport News |
7/10/43 |
Casablanca |
15/10/43 |
3899 |
" |
Casablanca |
16/10/43 |
Newport News |
24/10/43 |
3721 |
" |
Newport News |
28/10/43 |
Casablanca |
5/11/43 |
3849 |
" |
Casablanca |
6/11/43 |
Newport News |
13/11/43 |
3583 |
" |
Newport News |
21/11/43 |
Casablanca |
27/11/43 |
3807 |
" |
Casablanca |
28/11/43 |
Newport News |
6/12/43 |
3840 |
" |
Newport News |
17/12/43 |
Casablanca |
25/12/43 |
3883 |
" |
Casablanca |
26/12/43 |
Newport News |
2/1/44 |
3569 |
" |
Newport News |
11/1/44 |
Cape Town |
26/1/44 |
7360 |
" |
Cape Town |
28/1/44 |
Bombay |
8/2/44 |
5085 |
" |
Bombay |
20/2/44 |
Durban |
28/2/44 |
4095 |
" |
Durban |
3/3/44 |
Cape Town |
5/3/44 |
820 |
" |
Cape Town |
5/3/44 |
Liverpool |
20/3/44 |
7195 |
" |
Liverpool |
31/3/44 |
Halifax |
7/4/44 |
3399 |
" |
Halifax |
11/4/44 |
Liverpool |
18/4/44 |
3540 |
" |
Liverpool |
22/4/44 |
Halifax |
29/4/44 |
3408 |
" |
Halifax |
4/5/44 |
Liverpool |
10/5/44 |
2970 |
" |
Liverpool |
14/5/44 |
Halifax |
21/5/44 |
3419 |
" |
Halifax |
26/5/44 |
Glasgow |
1/6/44 |
2830 |
" |
Glasgow |
6/6/44 |
Halifax |
13/6/44 |
3275 |
" |
Halifax |
17/6/44 |
Glasgow |
23/6/44 |
3098 |
" |
Glasgow |
27/6/44 |
Halifax |
4/7/44 |
3278 |
" |
Halifax |
12/7/44 |
Glasgow |
18/7/44 |
2904 |
" |
Glasgow |
25/7/44 |
Halifax |
30/7/44 |
2986 |
" |
Halifax |
4/8/44 |
Liverpool |
10/8/44 |
2889 |
" |
Liverpool |
2/10/44 |
Freetown |
9/10/44 |
4013 |
" |
Freetown |
10/10/44 |
Cape Town |
17/10/44 |
3500 |
" |
Cape Town |
24/10/44 |
Casablanca |
4/11/44 |
5654 |
" |
Casablanca |
6/11/44 |
Liverpool |
9/11/44 |
1681 |
" |
Liverpool |
18/11/44 |
Cristobal |
29/11/44 |
5112 |
" |
Balboa |
30/11/44 |
Sydney |
16/12/44 |
7781 |
" |
Sydney |
1/12/44 |
Wellington |
23/12/44 |
1320 |
" |
Wellington |
6/1/45 |
Hobart |
9/1/45 |
1398 |
" |
Hobart |
9/1/45 |
Aden |
25/1/45 |
7359 |
" |
Aden |
26/1/45 |
Suez |
29/1/45 |
1332 |
" |
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Port Said |
1/2/45 |
Malta |
4/2/45 |
1008 |
" |
Malta |
5/2/45 |
Algiers |
7/2/45 |
580 |
" |
Algiers |
12/2/45 |
Gibraltar |
13/2/45 |
420 |
" |
Gibraltar |
14/2/45 |
Liverpool |
20/2/45 |
1991 |
" |
Liverpool |
10/3/45 |
Cristobal |
22/3/45 |
5353 |
" |
Balboa |
23/3/45 |
Sydney |
9/4/45 |
7821 |
" |
Sydney |
11/4/45 |
Wellington |
14/4/45 |
1237 |
" |
Wellington |
21/4/45 |
Melbourne |
24/4/45 |
1469 |
" |
Melbourne |
25/4/45 |
Colornbo |
6/5/45 |
5047 |
" |
Colombo |
7/5/45 |
Suez |
14/5/45 |
3450 |
" |
Port Said |
1/5/45 |
Taranto |
20/6/45 |
1067 |
" |
Taranto |
21/5/45 |
Port Said |
24/5/45 |
1077 |
" |
Port Said |
25/5/45 |
Naples |
28/5/45 |
1239 |
" |
Naples |
31/5/45 |
Gibraltar |
2/6/45 |
1015 |
" |
Gibraltar |
4/8/45 |
Liverpool |
8/6/45 |
1372 |
" |
Liverpool |
30/6/45 |
Port Said |
7/7/45 |
3326 |
" |
Port Said |
9/7/45 |
Colombo |
16/7/45 |
3444 |
" |
Colombo |
20/7/45 |
Bombay |
22/7/45 |
898 |
" |
Bombay |
23/7/45 |
Suez |
30/7/45 |
2978 |
" |
Port Said |
1/8/45 |
Liverpool |
8/8/45 |
3297 |
" |
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Port Mileage |
3453 |
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Total Distance |
482014 |
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Liverpool |
4/9/45 |
Quebec |
9/9/45 |
2452 |
" |
Quebec |
11/9/45 |
Liverpool |
17/9/45 |
2469 |
" |
Liverpool |
3/10/45 |
Taranto |
9/10/45 |
2616 |
" |
Taranto |
9/10/45 |
Port Said |
11/10/45 |
964 |
" |
Port Said |
12/10/45 |
Bombay |
19/10/45 |
2973 |
" |
Bombay |
25/10/45 |
Suez |
31/10/45 |
2964 |
" |
Suez |
31/10/45 |
Liverpool |
6/11/45 |
3223 |
" |
Liverpool |
22/11/45 |
Halifax |
27/11/45 |
2503 |
" |
Halifax |
29/11/45 |
Liverpool |
5/12/45 |
2464 |
" |
Liverpool |
16/1/46 |
Port Said |
23/1/46 |
3183 |
" |
Suez |
26/1/46 |
Kilindini |
1/2/46 |
2913 |
" |
Kilindini |
3/1/46 |
Durban |
6/2/46 |
1728 |
" |
Durban |
15/2/46 |
Cape Town |
17/2/46 |
816 |
" |
Cape Town |
18/2/46 |
Liverpool |
3/3/46 |
6068 |
" |
Liverpool |
16/3/46 |
Port Said |
23/3/46 |
3184 |
" |
Port Said |
23/3/46 |
Aden |
27/3/46 |
1316 |
" |
Aden |
27/3/46 |
Bombay |
1/4/48 |
1663 |
" |
Bombay |
7/4/46 |
Kilindini |
12/4/46 |
2419 |
" |
Kilindini |
13/4/46 |
Bombay |
19/4/46 |
2406 |
" |
Bombay |
24/4/46 |
Suez |
30/4/46 |
2985 |
" |
Port Said |
2/5/46 |
Liverpool |
9/5/46 |
3183 |
" |
Liverpool |
31/5/46 |
Naples |
5/6/46 |
2229 |
" |
Naples |
5/6/46 |
Port Said |
8/6/46 |
1123 |
" |
Suez |
10/6/46 |
Aden |
13/6/46 |
1314 |
" |
Aden |
13/6/46 |
Bombay |
17/6/46 |
1662 |
" |
Bombay |
23/6/46 |
Suez |
30/6/46 |
2969 |
" |
Port Said |
1/7/46 |
Liverpool |
8/7/46 |
3156 |
" |
Liverpool |
4/8/46 |
Port Said |
11/8/46 |
3187 |
" |
Suez |
12/8/46 |
Singapore |
23/8/46 |
4971 |
" |
Singapore |
26/8/46 |
Colombo |
30/8/46 |
1587 |
" |
Colombo |
1/9/46 |
Bombay |
3/9/46 |
885 |
" |
Bombay |
8/9/46 |
Suez |
14/8/46 |
2969 |
" |
Port Said |
15/9/46 |
Liverpool |
22/9/46 |
3148 |
" |
Liverpool |
19/10/46 |
Port Said |
25/10/46 |
3164 |
" |
Suez |
27/10/46 |
Bombay |
2/11/46 |
2971 |
" |
Bombay |
7/11/46 |
Suez |
13/11/46 |
2970 |
" |
Port Said |
14/11/46 |
Liverpool |
21/11/46 |
3150 |
" |
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Total Distance from 4/9/45 |
95947 |
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Unfortunately the dates you are looking for are not shown here so you will have to get those VRC for the period you are seeking, But just gives you an idea as to where she travelled at that time era.
Last edited by Doc Vernon; 9th January 2019 at 10:45 PM.
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9th January 2019, 10:40 PM
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Is this him ?
Cheers
Reference: |
BT 372/2533/146 |
Description: |
R789234 ASHWORTH R H 13/07/1929 LIVERPOOL |
Date: |
1913 - 1972 |
Held by: |
The National Archives, Kew |
Former reference in its original department: |
R789234 |
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10th January 2019, 09:07 PM
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Re: Hello everyone
Welcome to the site Peter.
I'm sure info will be along soon
Ron the batcave
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10th January 2019, 09:28 PM
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Re: Hello everyone
I sailed on the EMPRESS OF SCOTLAND, ex Empress of Japan, the one referred to above. in 1955,
she was a good ship. Bosun Harry Tonks.
we were running up to Quebec and Montreal from Liverpool then. 17 day trips. and had just had her masts shortened to get under the Jacque Cartier Bridge to get to Montreal.
Last edited by Captain Kong; 10th January 2019 at 09:30 PM.
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10th January 2019, 10:11 PM
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Re: Hello everyone
Thanks for the info Doc Vernon, the war voyages are a good insight in the ports of call ,unfortunately the record you found is not my father his discharge certificate number is R356532 date of birth 28.9.1929 he died in 1974. Thanks again for your help ,its great to feel a stronger connection with my dad and hope to build on it .
Pete.
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10th January 2019, 11:49 PM
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Yes just tooka stab there but here is correct one
R356532 ASHWORTH R 28/09/1929 PRESTON | The National Archives
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BT 372/972/139 |
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R356532 ASHWORTH R 28/09/1929 PRESTON |
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1913-1972 |
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The National Archives, Kew |
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R356532 |
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11th January 2019, 12:01 AM
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This is the Link for his CRS10 if still available at the NA it will hold a lot more info on his Ships etc may be worth getting this as well. In Series as shown
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Ashurst D to Atack R L | The National Archives
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BT 382/2047 |
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Ashurst D to Atack R L |
Date: |
1941 Jan 01 - 1972 Dec 31 |
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25 |
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16th January 2019, 01:39 PM
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What a lot of hard work to get that altogether, well done. My 3 trips
were in 1956, remember listening to Grace Keiiy's wedding in Monaco
on the radio.
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