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21st February 2018, 02:01 PM
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Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Hello everybody
I am looking for anything about the Allan line from 1900 through to 1937 ....I had a uncle who was a boatswain on the Allan Line but he passed away in 1918... also his wife who was a stewardess for the same company untill 1937... if anyone could guide me in the right direction please...
Many Thanks...
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21st February 2018, 04:28 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Initially hello and welcome.
I would imagine you are aware of most on the net but, add the following in general:
The Allan Line / Montreal Ocean Steamship Company
The Allan Line, more properly the Montreal Ocean Steamship Company, was founded in 1854 and began sailing in 1855. They continued to sail until about 1911 when negotiations with the Canadian Pacific Line took place. The company was merged with CP and became known as the Canadian Pacific Ocean Services Limited in 1915. However, it was not until 1917 that an official announcement of the merger finally became public.
Fares in 1855 were 18 guineas outwards and $80 homewards. They sailed from Quebec at 9 A.M. every alternate Saturday and from Liverpool on Wednesdays.
Hugh and Andrew Allan, with other Canadian partners, incorporated the Montreal Steamship Company in 1854. They were the second, and fourth, of the five sons of Alexander (Sandy) Allan 1780-1854. All the Allans were involved in the shipping industry. Alexander Allan had founded the Allan Line of Sailing Ships in 1819, with regular sailings between Greenock and Quebec in the brigantine Jean, commencing June 9th 1819. Sandy Allan died March 18th 1854, before the first Montreal Steamship Company steamship Canadian, sailed from Liverpool September 16th 1854, and arrived at Quebec September 28th 1854, on her Maiden voyage.
I imagine that you seek info on the relatives mention and ask if you can add some more information.
Regards Keith.
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Last edited by Keith at Tregenna; 21st February 2018 at 04:29 PM.
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22nd February 2018, 12:28 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Thank you Keith ....My uncle and Aunts names where Nathen & Edith Rankin....I would of imagined that they met on board ship ...I have found out he passed away from Tuberculosis in 1918...but Edith did go back to work as a stewardess untill 1937...I am also thinking that she would have worked on board before she was married her maiden name was Moody...and they both lived in Liverpool ...Nathan was born in Scotland but came with his family to Liverpool....she passed away in 1965 at 84 years old....my mum passed away in 1962 so all the information I have has been found on the internet...I was just wondering if there was anyway I could find out more about there seafaring days...
Thank you so much
Thelma...
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22nd February 2018, 02:30 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Could you assist with any other information such as dates and place of birth etc,
First quick look that you may be aware of suggests/:
Nathan Rankin was recorded twice for the 1911 census, at home and on board the "Tunisian"
also this record,
Royal Navy Registers of Seaman's services,
Nathan Rankin
Birth
8 Apr 1878
Birth Place:
Newton Stewart, Wigtown
First Service Date:
9 Jan 1894
First Ship Served On:
Impregnable
Last Service Date:
5 Feb 1901
Last Ship Served On:
Cambridge
Service Number:
178132
On the above record it states he had an alias, Nathan McClelland.
MCCLELLAND
NATHAN,
RANKIN
MARGARET,
1878
895/ 9
Penninghame,
Either yourself or another made enquiries: https://www.bootlehistory.co.uk/foru...a325c&start=70
If you can confirm the above it will avoid us looking over old ground and assist others on site in helping further.
Regards Keith.
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22nd February 2018, 06:13 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Hi Thelma, Welcome to the site, found Birth, Christening & Marriage details of Edith which I'll post if you wish all from Ancestry. Com including the 1911 Census:
Name: Edith Rankin
[Edith Moody]
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 48 Thornton Rd Bootle
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Home
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 22437
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Moody 73 Widow
Charles Moody 33 Son
Edith Rankin 29 Daughter
Nathan Rankin 32 Son in Law
Edith Smith 17 Granddaughter
Edith is listed as being at home, Nathan as a Sailor. Census also states they had been married for four years and had two children, unfortunately they had both died.
Will search under her maiden and married name for crew lists.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Not in numerical order Thelma just as I find them:
Name: Edith Rankin
Arrival Date: 14 Jan 1932
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 48
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Duchess of Atholl
13 yrs Service
Rank Stewardess
Height 5'2'' Weight 126lbs...
Last edited by Marian Gra; 22nd February 2018 at 07:16 PM.
Reason: added text
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22nd February 2018, 08:53 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Thanks Marian.
Hopefully, Thelma will look in ASAP.
K.
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22nd February 2018, 11:21 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Hello again Thelma,''This incredible footage was filmed by a long time worker in the Canadian film and television industry who was fortunate at the time to have access to very high priced (back then) 16mm equipment. We were able to acquire this from his estate many years ago and this is the first chance we've had to share it. This 1931 footage was captured on the deck of the London cruise ship "The Duchess of Atholl" which was sunk by a U boat in 1942. This is film of a family at play on the waters of pre war England. The film has suffered in some sports from age but overall very clear and enjoyable. Note: This piece was filmed silent and has no audio.''
CANADIAN FILMED 16mm Footage. 1931 Duchess of Atholl Ship ...
Video for canadian pacific liner duchess of atholl▶ 4:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6y-H78p78
RMS Duchess of Atholl - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Duchess_of_Atholl
So far have only found Edith on the Atholl, numerous trips so no point listing all her journeys back & forth.
As for Nathan will try and get that to you somehow tomorrow evening.
Last edited by Marian Gra; 22nd February 2018 at 11:48 PM.
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22nd February 2018, 11:40 PM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
You will notice Marian in the footage the old time habit of having two boats to launch From one set of davits which would have been a time consuming job under distressing conditions in most cases. When that practice was stopped haven’t a clue. Ships tying up or making fast to tugs wilith all of 3 men are involved to handle what looks like 10 inch ropes. If that was today 3 men each end of ship would in a lot of cases be your full deck complement. Must breed them bigger and stronger today !!!! JWS
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23rd February 2018, 12:01 AM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
Hi Marian.
I don't know how you do it but thanks for that, it reminded me of what it was like when I went to sea, as John says ten inch ropes, I well remember making many a tug fast.
Cheers Des
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23rd February 2018, 02:03 AM
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Re: Allan Line 1906 - 1937
I remember 20 years ago, there was little to do with the MN on the net.
Now there is a vast amount and searching can be difficult.
Touch wood we will find more, tomorrow is another day though.
Keith.
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