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    Saw on the news that the French have been awarded the contract to build those submarines but forget to look in which country they are to be built in.
    If built to a French design that leads to interesting questions like,
    Where do you store the wine?
    Is there a special snorkel to extract the smell of garlic.
    Does it go faster astern than ahead?, oops no that the Italian submarines is it not.
    Will they still have an outside dunny?
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    Hi Les.
    50 Billion dollars for a vote; that is the cost to Turnbull for getting Christoper Payne to vote for him against Abbot, Payne was gone for all seasons in the next election; but now, maybe, they will vote him back in so that their sons MAY get a job in ten years time building bits of subs. As you know we had a very good shipbuilding industry here at one time all the Iron Boats were built here, but our rubbish politicians let it go and we lost many good shipbuilders. I hope the people of South Aus are not conned by this bullshit as it's going to take another two elections before anything is sorted.\
    Cheers Des
    PS. THis bloke wouldn't know a sub if it were inserted up his jacksy . Malcolm Turnbull053.jpg

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    #12. Will it have the Euro painted on the side of the conning tower and how much is still under mortgage and owing to the EU. If and when the UK goes into Europe totally, which will be when the Monarchy looses its flavour of the month. I and suppose many others will vote not to stay in the Commonwealth, which with the already existing large amounts of the population who want a Republic will push Australia over the line. Who in their right minds wants to heel to a Brussels Parliament which all countries showing allegiance to the Crown will have to do. So the choices are obvious to me. The so called building of the subs in South Australia is purely a political choice that Turnbull has to make, he is damned if he does and he is damned if he doesn't. If he does as he is camouflaging the building as of now, he will get the S.A. vote and live to fight on. If he doesn't he will lose the vote and the subs will be built in S.A. regardless. All mirrors to get votes and pacify the electorate. I was on one fairly new built ship the Maratha Envoy, in the chartroom there was a plaque saying this vessel is under mortgage to Mitzibushi Shipbuilders, that plaque was 2 years old when I left, I wonder how many years before it was taken down. Anyone know if Naval warships do the same, fancy having a navy owned by someone else. Cheers JS
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    Can not think of anything worse than having four or five years terms here in Oz. Three year terms are good for democracy simply because it gives the voter a chance to rectify a mistake from the last election. My personal view is the ones in power so long as they take the population along with them and not only explain more fully as well as sell ideas to the public will get re elected hence getting at least six year term or more. Has been done a number of times in the past where either Liberal or Labour has been in power for over a decade simply by doing what politicians are supposed to do and that is look after the population but to advocate that current mob or opposition be given four to five year term makes one quiver with fright. Just imagine five years with the mad monk in charge. We would have ended up at war with everything that breathed and to bloody scared to go out the front door. As said? If they do the right thing then they will be voted in for further terms so why the need to change a system that can kick out the duds after three year term.
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    Maybe Les but the problem is they spend two of the three years in election mode.

    As to the subs one commentator claims they will be diesel and not nuclear. Most of the big nations have nuclear subs but even though we sell uranium here in Oz we will not use it. Just bloody stupid if you ask me.
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    diesel or nuclear what difference will it make if they are say stationed in the south east corner of Oz and needed in the north west of Oz then they would be as useful as tits on a bull. Lets face it subs are an attack vessel not defence in reality are they not. How can one justify spending so much money on them and all the other toys that they want while the population is in dire straits except for the select few. Besides that if it came to war against Oz our lot would need to have at least a decade to have royal commissions and consultations not to mention getting the okay from uncle sam as to whether we can retaliate. Who amongst us has the confidence for this lot or any of them to keep us safe. Where as spending the money on infrastructure and the betterment of the populace would mean doing something that was not in step with the rest of the world and hence no brownie points for them.
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    #17... Les the First battalion of The Australian Camel Corps looks more and more feasible day by day, multitudes of free camels waiting for the necessary training in the hinterlands of Australia. I agree with you, in Europe a submarine force is maintained as a deterrent against a nucleur missile attack and carry the same nucleur devices. Australia has no such devices so whats the point. Originally submarines were built and manned to sink shipping. This can be just as well done and more efficiently by air attack from aircraft or land based sites hundreds of miles away. Submarines are an over played strategy when it comes to Australia having such, their uses are limited and require men to man them, with all the appropriate training. As you say they are an attack weapon, our defence forces as their name implies should be just that. To have such built by a European power is the final thorn in the crown. If they can throw good money after bad one wonders on their strategy, that is if they have any at all. JS

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    How can Australia allow such Quislings as the froggy French to build their subs.??
    How the hell can you trust a froggy Frenchman.??

    They collaborated with Germany in WW2 sinking British Merchant Ships and Killing their British crews and in the Falklands War sent Exocet missiles and Super Entarde fighter bombers to Argentina to kill British Seamen and Service men, who the hell would want to be associated with that kind of country.?
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    Someone had better tell the Australians that French subs are unsinkable.
    They are built like this, so that they are always in a position to fly the White Flag.
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