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    When Labour nationalised the yards in1977, they demanded a productivity increase of 20% at no cost, which Labour got. They also wanted an agreement with the unions o remove the 124 working particles which was prevalent within the yards,the Unions refused. It would seven years later before the Unions agreed to review and reduce the working particles, to little to late.
    Even with the increased productivity, a ship built in the UK on average took twice as long to build as a European built ship.
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    A lot of strikes and walkouts were not Union sanctioned, as I said before there was blame on both sides.

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    ###along came the containers ...bye bye the MN

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    Like many things in the 1960s and 1970s a lot of people fought against progress instead of embracing it and adapting with it now there are no dockers in the traditional way and very few shipyard workers . Maybe if they have been a bit more flexible in the middle 1960s they would have still been here
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    And the rest of UK industry Rob.
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    The famous red Robbo British Leyland died just before Christmas and I think the only British car that I had in many a year was a Rover SD1 beautiful car but I'm sure if they have let Monkeys assembly it it could have been put together better . Unfortunately some of the unions had so extremities of the marxists Who seem Hell Bent on not improving the conditions for their brethren but making a stand against whatever government was in power whether it be labour or conservative
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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy View Post
    ###along came the containers ...bye bye the MN
    Yes Cappy and because of the short sightedness of the management of the once great Blue Funnel line they did not see the writing on the wall and left it far to late. Top quality men kept there aging fleet running and for what !!!!

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    By 1966 the British and Commonwealth group had already invested in overseas containers and had one Bay boat already ordered to join ocl
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    In any industry you either change with the times or go under.
    Containerization was the biggest thing to hit the shipping industry since steam took over from sail.
    Then the advent of cheaper labor from countries such as China and Phillipines added to the problem.

    But the speed of change within the industry was also one of the major factors in the demise of the British Merchant Navy.
    Many companies were caught out by it and never recovered.
    Add to this the lower costs to companies exporting where they could fill the containers at source thus reducing theft and transport cost.

    But this is not the end, there will be more changes over time with the distinct possibility of crewless ships.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

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