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Thread: Barry Docks, and Cardiff, the tramp steamer capital of the world.

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    Default 'The Red House'

    The iconic waterfront public house 'The Red House' identified in council minutes as an important listed building that must be preserved - demolished!

    SADLY MISSED....................

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    The Red house was a good pub and served a good pint. I had many a happy time in that place.
    What has happened to the Mount, the Packet , Ship and pilot , the Pier head, the boilermakers. Have they all gone as well????
    Geoff crying into an empty glass
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    Default 'Barry's rich history needs a museum'

    A NEW museum spotlighting the history of Barry must be built as part of the town's developing Masterplan. What is actually desired and required is a cultural centre, which would house a museum to display the town’s historic relics. Barry is a town that has not only been shaped by history but has also helped to shape history. This needs to be explored in a museum. Smaller places have these museums, which are dedicated to their past and I am certain such an attraction here would not only bring in tourists, but would also be of immense importance to people living here.

    While we have these ideas to really develop the town's potential, we must make sure a Visitor Centre / Museum is included. This would be of great benefit for both local people and visitors alike. It is essential that something similar to this occurs and works for the whole community. The centre would also be a place for people to attend such things as art sessions and poetry, readings and much more and provide a valuable home for the many local organisations without premises.

    Barry is noted amongst other things as being a Merchant Navy Town, “the forgotten service”. An Historic Port “once described as the Gateway to the World”, She is also proud of her “Glory Days” as a Resort – with Day Trippers and Holiday Makers, Butlins to an extent, her beaches and funfair, “Scenic Railway” and more. Paddle Steamers, including the PS. Barry, bought for, and named after the town. Remember those that built the town from Labourers to Gentry, Councillors to Fishermen, Dockers to Merchants of the past and present.

    Almost every home can tell a tale, Barry needs to remember not only her Master Mariners and Sailors and Dockers, but encompass everybody as we should. Remember the Barrian’s that fought and died, then and now in our armed forces. Families left behind, Captains and crews lost outside of wartimes, Railwaymen and Western Welsh personnel, without forgetting all previous history, as taught by Brian Luxton at the Barry Boy’s Comprehensive School. An introduction to both history and local history and an inspiration, listened to every word and wish I could remember all now. Another reason for such a venue.

    Barry was a Port. Was a Merchant Navy Town. Was the “Gateway to the World”. Was a major Resort. Was a graveyard to Steam Trains. Was a home to a proper Castle, church, industry and a growing population and much, much more. Hopefully, many that can still remember, will care not to forget. I ask only that you do something for your children and their children, who may not be bothered that you help now, but may value the attempt you and others made in years to come, to make something happen now.

    Mr. David Simpson fights for support and leads the way in a challenge that is to big for one man. Thankfully, he has a growing number of helpers and supporters. I ask only that you pop into the Central Library / Arts Central at Barry, within the next two weeks. Have a look for yourself and with no pressure, decide and possibly sign on the dotted line, you could be involved with commencing a visitor centre / museum / meeting place, hub of the community and maybe a tea room We will have room for Gavin and Stacey, if by then they do still exist or even are still occurring. OUR HISTORY NEEDS A HOME. We need a new ‘Blue Cafe’ and somewhere to meet and remember.

    Hopefully, Morrisons may donate those huge pictures of Barry and her Docks?

    Hopefully, Barrian’s will unite and support: No one is asking for another memorial Hall to be built by the people, but just some thought and a little help.

    LEST WE FORGET. Contact : David Simpson via http://www.barrymerchantseamen.org.uk

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    Default New museum to tell the Cardiff story

    New museum to tell the Cardiff story

    In the summer of 2010 a new and exciting museum will open in Cardiff. The museum will tell the story of Cardiff and will be called The Cardiff Story.

    The Cardiff Story team are now busy preparing the museum and needs the help of Cardiff residents to help bring the story to life. From keepsakes from the past to trinkets of the modern age, the team needs your assistance in finding objects. Over the next few months we will be asking for your help to find items for certain themes of The Cardiff Story. The first theme we are collecting items for is the Cardiff Docks.

    The docks has been a key storyline in the history of Cardiff, over the years they have had many faces, from being a thriving dock yard, housing a multi- cultural community in Tiger Bay to being the modern day tourist attraction of Cardiff Bay. Cardiff Docks have many stories to tell and we need your help in finding items that can help tell it.

    Part of the gallery will be dedicated to the docklands and the Cardiff Story team is looking to complete a 3-D model of the docks set in 1913 when the docks were at their busiest. The team needs items which can illustrate some of the pivotal landmarks in the area including the Queen Alexandra Dock, the Pierhead Building, the John Cory Sailor's Rest Home, a ship Chandler's shop, the Hamadryad Hospital ship, Bute Street police station, as well as houses to highlight differences between sea captains' homes and the dock workers'. The Cardiff Story also wants to show the modern day Cardiff Bay with the many restaurants, Welsh Millennium Centre and new homes and flats.

    If you have any objects, items, photographs or stories that you feel could be used to interpret the 3D docks model then please contact the Cardiff Story Team on 02920 788 334 or email: cardiffstory@cardiff.gov.uk

    If you're not sure whether your memorabilia is suitable for The Cardiff Story then Project Officer, Victoria Rogers offers the following advice: "Museum objects don't have to be worth a lot of money, nor be particularly old. What we're really interested in are things that tell a story about Cardiff and its people. For example to bring the docks to life we have so far collected a chocolate tin that was given to children in Cardiff to celebrate the opening of the Queen Alexandra dock. We're looking for things that help to bring everyday lives to life for visitors, so objects can be as 'ordinary' as a sailors discharge book, or a trunk that a seaman used on ship."

    Executive Member for Sport, Leisure and Culture, Cllr Nigel Howells, Said: "The Cardiff Story is a very exciting and interesting project, as it's created for the people of Cardiff by the people of Cardiff.

    "Cardiff is a vibrant city which is steeped in history, the aim of The Cardiff Story is to capture not only the past but also the present."
    "Our veterans did not forget about us .... Let's not forget about them." From Michael Levesque

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    Default Tiger Bay

    Did anyone watch or re-watch Tiger Bay this afternoon on BBC2 ?

    Tiger Bay is the first picture of famous child star Hayley Mills. Daughter of John Mills, who also co-stars in this film about love, murder and unlikely friendship. Hayley Mills play a rebelious girl who lives with her poor aunt in a cheap housing block. She witnesses a murder in an adjoining flat. After initially running from the murderer, he catches her and she forms an unlikely friendship with him. Subsequently she lies to protect him and some fascinating drama ensues. John Mills plays a policeman on the crime case. Hayley Mills steals the show and is absolutely fantastic. John Mills is great as well, Lots of tension, drama, and plenty of chase scenes. A local and Merchant Navy piece of history.

    HAVE WATCHED IT MANY TIMES, BUT UNTIL TODAY, NOT OF LATE.

    For me it seemed timeless and un-missable. Great shots of Cardiff and Barry Docks, Bristol Channel etc and always priceless in the opening scenes, Newports transporter bridge, used in the film as neither Cardiff or Barry had one. The Newport bridge still survives as do so many memories from this great old black and white, think it was made approx 1959. I WOULD HAVE BEEN 3 AND A HALF, GOING ON 4.

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    hi lads. another bbc production you might like. "small island" involves the "empire windrush" and the first migrants from jamaica. " and thats when the trouble started" unfortunatly part one was last night (sunday BBC1) but the second final part is next sunday. and they are bound to repeat most of it as a reminder or as they say (previously) cheers. alf
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    Alf mate, I think you will fine the problem goes back further than that. It all began when that lovely lady Queen Victoria allowed for many citizens of Empire countries to hole British passports.
    Happy daze John in Oz.

    Life is too short to blend in.

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    Default Barry, S.Wales during WW2

    Barry, S.Wales during WW2

    Barry Docks, west of Cardiff in south Wales, was a prominent Bristol Channel port during WW2, being used for importing the essential materials and food needed to support the island nation of Britain, while also serving as an embarkation point for American troops.

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    Barry in WW2: The Merchant & Royal Navies
    On Christmas Eve, a patrolling German aircraft spotted the convoy and U-354 ... He began his time in the Merchant Navy as a fifteen-year-old Mess Room Boy, ...
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    Worth a look.

    K.
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    Default Barry and District News

    Treasuring the Past - Embracing the Present - Envisioning the Future

    Fine words have been recorded but is anyone listening? “We will establish a sustainable, mixed-use community, focused around the water, with its own centre that will enhance and complement the facilities already available in the area, and that will connect the existing communities of Barry Island and Barry Town.” Richard Keogh, spokesman for the Barry Waterfront Consortium: Although a differing form of centre is meant an attraction, a visitor centre, people’s community facility, multi use building / museum is what is required.

    David Simpson was recently given the opportunity to put on a display related to the Merchant Seamen of Barry. Although once described as The Gateway to the World and a Merchant Navy Town, this provided a way of publicising a campaign for a Barry Museum to help prevent losing the history and heritage of the town.

    This further provided the opportunity to find out what people wanted to know about Barry's Merchant Naval history, and what educational needs may be met. Visitors from far a field had their say and all confirmed an area of interest in our towns past and her heritage. One visitor from Italy alone thought they could have no effect by signing a petition, but visitor’s involvement by attendance and feedback proves a need in this town for such a full time visitor attraction. Many signed the petition and an emphasis has been observed towards a Town Visitor / Heritage Centre – Multi use building incorporating a Museum.

    Fred Hortop, recently crossed the bar. He had done so much to ensure that the people of Barry could pay their respects to her heroes. Let Barrian’s ensure in his memory that the towns past, present and future are recorded / preserved even commemorated and celebrated. May a much needed Cultural Centre along with the proposed Street name also possibly be named after him.

    Mr. Tom Clemett has organised exhibitions of historic Barry, for many a year. Historical information like this really needs a permanent home in Barry, a local Exhibition Centre / Museum is desired and required now more than ever.

    Dr. Jonathan Hicks and his ‘Barry and the Second World War’ Exhibitions at both the Memorial Hall and Art Central, saw hundreds of visitors attend. He continually asks readers for any items, photographs or stories that they would like included in his future exhibitions on Barry’s role in the two world wars of the last century, it is widely believed that almost every Barry family is not without some form of artefact and this without the marvellous Barry Axis collection.

    We have a very important industrial, seafaring and wartime history alone, a now lesser but remembered resort and fine coast and beach areas. Many recall the fun filled days of the pleasure attraction and even Butlins in her time. It would be wonderful to know more of the history of all of our fallen heroes, of our town and her Past, Present and Future this should be on permanent display in a much-needed Visitor Centre / Museum / Venue.

    We should not forget that costs are both incurred and have to be sustainable etc, but again an action group / committee must be formed to discuss all options, seek a way forward and at least discuss all and present findings etc. Until this is paid more than lip service it can never occur.

    A few names mentioned above are amongst many that seek the best for Barry, only learning of and from the past can we best prepare for the future: Barry also has a living history that requires attention whether by the preservation of a building, restoration of a grave, care of a monument, remembering those lost or ensuring our heritage. We can all play a part before all is lost.

    I was always told that this country holds more history per square inch of land than any other, it is up to the towns people to ensure that Barry receives her deserved mileage and all planners and consortiums to ensure they assist in this occurring. Barry as the largest town in Wales should no longer be known as a town without a museum.

    http://www.barrymerchantseamen.org.u...Spetition.html

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    Default Town museum bid backed

    PRESSURE is growing for a museum on the heritage of Barry to be set up in the town.

    Wales Online:

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-25739303/

    K.
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