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2nd April 2015, 12:30 AM
#31
Re: The Falklands
Ref #31.. I think if memory correct the going rate for the hire of the standard oil rig was 100,000 pounds a day and that was in 1990. What it is today wouldnt have a clue unless looked up in Lloyds or elsewhere. On the normal rig everything is geared around the actual drilling as time is really big money. Anything else pays lip service to this. The big man on board is the Toolpusher and he makes sure nothing interferes with his drilling. It is a 24 hour a day job for as soon as the drilling is complete they can get off charter and halt some of the huge outlay of money. If you were master on a supply vessel who didn't keep up to his demands for drill pipe or casing and slowed the job down, you stood to be fired and lose your own charter. That's why I always smile when I hear about people talk about safety in North Sea oil and gas exploration. When anything interferes with the likes of what stated risks are taken, it is an accepted fact of the job. You can have as many Safety meetings you like that proves absolutely nothing. This is what you are paid the better money for. Otherwise stand aside and let someone else in. It was a hire and fire business and probably still is. JS
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2nd April 2015, 05:13 AM
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Re: The Falklands
Hardiman resources offered shares some years back on an oil filed they claimed to have found off the coast of South America to the southern tip. Not sure if this was meant to be the Falklands but the oil fiedl was said to hold about two billion barrels. Mate of mine bought some and did very well selling tem a few years later.
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2nd April 2015, 05:31 AM
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Re: The Falklands
There will be people on site not aware of the above Industry. When one talks about cement this carried on board a supply vessel in powder form and transferred by hose into a similar tank on rig by compressed air the amounts may vary but a couple of hundred tons was about the usual at various times. Other commodities carried in similar tanks was Bentonite , Barytes, and others which were also discharged by the same manner, some of these were used down the hole for various reasons. Also in delegated ships tanks Oil Based Mud was carried which had to be agitated all the time to prevent it solidifying this was also used in drilling and lessened the work load on the rig of making their own from the barytes and other commodities. Oil base mud after use was backloaded onto vessel for transfer back ashore where it was cleaned and used again, the tanks on ship had to be spotless to carry this, was extremely expensive and more costly than petrol. Fresh water was always supplied to rig, in the form of Drill Water or domestic drinking water, when I left tanks holding 5 or 6 hundred tons was normal for new tonnage. Fuel tanks were also always being passed back and forward for the use of helicopters. Plus of course fuel oil for the rigs generators and machinery. The deck cargo although a lot was containerized, consisted of everything one can imagine for use on a rig. Food was always in every run out including chilled and frozen foodstuffs in special containers. The recent post about the young fellow going to be a navigation cadet will not get any of this sort of training sitting in a classroom, and the chances as this might be his first form of ship. He is maybe correct when he says he wants to go on passenger liners, and knows a bit more than his father suspects. As mate on the ship he will be responsible for securing this and also on deck with one AB putting on the crane hook and relashing the cargo between lifts all this with seas coming on board especially in the winter months, the North Sea is famous for its inclement weather. John S
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3rd April 2015, 04:31 AM
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Re: The Falklands
Speaking of cement brings to mind a berth here in Port Melbourne where bulk cement is loaded. There is a very nice park area opposite the place and Sunday afternoon sees a lot sitting enjoying the river. I overheard one couple talking about the ship being loaded and I head he say,' how d hey stop the cement from going hard when the ship is at sea? The man had to explain it was dry cement. Sad thing she was not a blonde.
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3rd April 2015, 08:36 AM
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Re: The Falklands
Originally Posted by
happy daze john in oz
Speaking of cement brings to mind a berth here in Port Melbourne where bulk cement is loaded. There is a very nice park area opposite the place and Sunday afternoon sees a lot sitting enjoying the river. I overheard one couple talking about the ship being loaded and I head he say,' how d hey stop the cement from going hard when the ship is at sea? The man had to explain it was dry cement. Sad thing she was not a blonde.
John in OZ
In the 70's there were ships lying off Lagos for months at time full of cement going hard as the Nigerian government had ordered sufficient cement to be delivered in one go to complete all their ambitious port and road building schemes, most of which never came to fruition.
Also up the Gulf when the Arab states suddenly became wealthy and started huge building schemes a back log of ships waiting to discharge cement in bags built up. I was up there on a ship with cement in bags as part of our cargo and to avoid getting stuck in the queue for a berth {could be up to 6 months or more} we actually discharged the cement at anchor off the Shatt al Arab, using helicopters!!!!
rgds
JA
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3rd April 2015, 08:54 AM
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Re: The Falklands
Oil and gas have been discovered 130 miles north of th Falklands. The field could yield up to 100b barrels of crude oil.
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3rd April 2015, 08:58 PM
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Re: The Falklands
From GOOGLE NEWS.............................
Argentina has announced that it is planning to take legal action against the UK for its oil exploration around the Falkland Islands.
In a day of heightened anti-Britain rhetoric, President Cristina Kirchner also scoffed at Britain’s reinforcing of the islands’ defence – and urged Britain to spend its money instead on ending unemployed people’s reliance on food banks.
Thursday, the day which marked the 33rd anniversary of the Falklands invasion, saw two British firms announce that they had made an oil and gas discovery at a well in the archipelago – the first in a nine-month drilling campaign. Premier Oil and Falkland Oil and Gas said the discovery was “better than expected”.
Mrs Kirchner, however, termed it “provocative”, and her minister for Falkland affairs, Daniel Filmus, said they would be taking legal action.
“The president has announced that the government will in the coming days renew legal action against the UK’s intention to explore illegally the waters around the Malvinas Islands,” he said. “It also implies a tremendous risk to the environment.
“The objective of this criminal complaint from the republic of Argentina is to prevent the exploitation of resources which belong to our 40 million compatriots, and to see that the owners of these businesses be tried according to Argentine and international law.”
Mrs Kirchner then used a speech in Ushuaia, flanked by veterans of the 1982 war, to ridicule plans to increase defence expenditure.
“Don’t worry. Don’t spend another pound sterling on defending the Malvinas,” she said, using the Argentina term for the Falklands.
“Spend your money feeding the English, on providing jobs for your young people and a better quality of life for the British, because we are not a threat to anyone.
“What a paradox, when there are more than one million Britons eating at the food banks they have had to open in one of the most powerful countries in the world.”
In a typically fiery speech – her last address on the anniversary, given that she steps down in October – she derided as electioneering the announcement of an increase in defence spending. Last week Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, said an extra £180 million would be spent over 10 years to counter “continuous intimidation” from Argentina in the Falklands.
“If you need help for your campaign from the arms lobby, look for another excuse but don’t use Argentina,” she said. “If it’s not enough to win the elections through the things you do during your rule, don’t seek an excuse through Argentina.
“Here we don’t win elections by frightening anyone with any invasion.”
She also celebrated the sacking of Jeremy Clarkson, who caused anger by driving around Patagonia in a car whose number plate seemingly mocked the Falklands.
And she pledged to declassify all secret documents relating to the conflict. Britain two years ago declassified hundreds of files under the 30 year rule – but many remain secret, for what the government sees as security reasons.
Yesterday it was claimed that Britain spied on the Argentine government for five years, amid fears of another attempt to reclaim the Falkland Islands.
Documents released by American whistle-blower Edward Snowden are said to allege that British agents were actively spying on Argentina between 2006 and 2011.
The large scale operation may have involved implanting computer viruses, circulating false propaganda and collecting intelligence with the aim of diminishing or discrediting the Argentine government, according to the BBC.
The reports were published on Friday by several Argentine news agencies.
There has been no formal response from either the British or Argentine government to the allegations.
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4th April 2015, 12:17 AM
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HI All.
If you have an election coming up and you are in trouble rattle the saber like hell Mr Cameron.
Cheers Des
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