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    Hi Jeff.
    Have sent you private message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Osborne View Post
    Thanks for the info Chris will do what you suggest.

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    Thats a good idea Kieth I'll do that. Thanks.



    Just a thought, if they cannot help hopefully, they will suggest
    someone that can ?

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    The Royal Naval Patrol Service Museum in Lowestoft may be able to help with your research into HMT Tartan. Gerald Toghill's book Royal Naval Trawlers, Part Two, Requisitioned Trawlers lists Tartan as requisitioned in November 1939 and converted to an APV. Then in March 1942 converted to a mine sweeper and returned to owners in March 1946. Hope you find some answers from the museum and their records. Charles.

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    Now I am not too sure here but this Trawler was also earlier called Tartan sorry Pic not too clear! Confusing as I did read earlier that it was Sunk ?? Puzzling or possibly just another with the same name !??

    Vaceasay 17.3.45 Dan layer, sold Feb 1967

    Tartan Nov 1939 Dan layer, auxiliary patrol, mine sweeper, returned July 1945




    Little known are the ‘Dan-Layer’ trawlers which working with mine-sweeper flotillas placed ‘Dans’ or buoys in areas which had been mine-swept.

    Many were used as
    Danlayers-the Dan being an anchored pole with a flag on top- marking areas which had been swept.
    HM Trawler Classes were many and were built by many ship-builders: Ardrossan Dockyard Company, Cochrane and Sons, Selby, Cook Welton & Gemmell, Beverley, Ferguson Bros Ltd, Port Glasgow, Goole Shipbuilding & Repair Co., Hall Russell & Co Aberdeen, A/J Inglis Ltd, Glasgow, Henry Robb Ltd, Leith and Smith & Co of South Bank on Tees.

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    Hi Chris. I have searched further re the Trawler Tartan and have found that she was in Naval Service from Nov 1939. I will see if I can add the text from an email into this post?

    This is an email reply to my query about Matthew Douglas Smith on board the Tartan from the RNPSA.

    Hello Jeff

    HMT Tartan was an auxiliary patrol trawler from Nov 1939 and then as a minesweeper from Mar 1942 to July 1945 so was in Naval service at the time if his death.

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    She did not sink so I wonder how the poor chap came to die, its certainly a mystery. Its possible it could have been either by air attack or even an accident, how strange. I wonder if a Death Certificate was issued, if one was it could contain the cause of death. Just a thought.

    Deaths in WW2 for Army, Royal Air Force, and Royal Navy personnel were registered in a similar way to civilian deaths. One can assume a certificate was issued to the nominated next of kin. Copies of such death certificates can be obtained from the General Register Office in the usual way.

    I should think that you would have to find her operating port at the time of his death and the local Register Office could have a copy.
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    So is the above Post of mine correct then?? Thanks
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    Hi Doc. Thanks for the pic and info. Shame the identification on the bow of the vessel has been blocked out, but a nice pic nonetheless. Will have to research the Dan-Layers now. Thanks for the lead.

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    Usually, it is just the time factor, few that try to assist are concerned at any costs,
    generally, if careful, monetary wise, little more than the cost of a hobby is involved
    and few would ask for payments.

    Personally, slowed but coping, awaiting an eye op.

    No doubt, all may be solved before I discover more and wish you well.

    Regards,

    Keith.

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    Thanks for your reply Keith, I understand completely and I wish you well with your eye op.

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