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1st September 2018, 11:54 AM
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Iron Mike
Where did this term originate from.
Also, what determination was applied for using it. It wasn’t, in my experience, always used in mid- ocean. Why, can any Mates explain.
Duke Drennan R809731
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1st September 2018, 12:07 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
Probably because that’s what the original one looked like, a heap of iron. Mike because it was. A 4 letter word like auto. Originally was usd when clear of the land. Today the modern automatic helmsman can be used right up to the berth. Is much more accurate and reliable. No one could steer for hour after hour with tbe accuracy required for course maintaining for a seismic survey of today. All my time on offshore ships was extremely rare to see a man on the wheel. The watchkeepers usd to do it if required in conjunction with all the other machinery which came under bridge control. After the 1966 seaman’s strike the first thing that was changed was the 3 man on a watch which went to 2 immediately after the strike, if a ship had an automatic steering system. It was the first thing to go in preparation for reduced manning. This reduced the requirement of 9 ABs or the equivilant to 6. The legislation was changed to comply with future demmanning from that point in time. JWS...
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1st September 2018, 01:39 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
That's the way I remember the sea, 3 man watch, but after about1961 we reduced to 2 man watches when we'll clear of land. All old memories, toward the end of the 61 no more streaming the log, only on very old ships. I wonder how many seamen on deck today could stream a log, or retrieve the log, maybe even read ,!! Kt
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1st September 2018, 02:46 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
On Blue Star ships in the 50s, Iron Mike was switched on during daylight hours so the wheel man could work, then in the night watches it was switched off so you had to do the wheel.
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1st September 2018, 06:44 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
Iron Mike? In the 50s I heard the same referred to as 'Iron Jack'. A friend on Blue Funnel told me how he was nearly run down by a Greek on 'Iron Jack' - as the Greek stormed past, all that could be seen on the bridge was a dog. It barked at them! Later, my pal joined the Greeks. One day, he came off radio watch and went into the wheelhouse, but found it empty. The ship was 'on Iron Jack' as he put it - the watch were all in the saloon because it was coffee break.
Harry Nicholson
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1st September 2018, 07:13 PM
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1st September 2018, 08:08 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
Originally Posted by
Ben Ward
Hey Duke,great name buddy,any tips on getting F bar chord,Ben.
Grow a longer forefinger or cheat with your thumb on the top E.
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Chris Allman
We had one on the Rossini - hooked up to the Magnetic Compass, seem to remember it was a Sperry - the most useless piece of junk I have ever sailed with. In rough weather the ship was all over the place as the magnetic compass swung wildly about. We were on Charter at the time and steaming down the east coast of Africa when she suddenly went hard a port, I could not do a thing but quickly uncouple it and go back to manual steering. There was a ship coming towards me on a parallel course on the Port side and I only just managed to get her hard a starboard and out of his way. He did go quite sharply to starboard himself but came back steady when he saw me getting out of the way. The Lecky and Sparks were summoned by the Old Man and went into a deep discussion after examining it. They finally broke cover when the old man demanded an explanation and Lecky said to him, " its a printed circuit board that controls it, we could take it out and turn it round and put it back " " would that fix it " asked the Old Man - " Well Sir " said Sparky Not really we would just go hard a starboard instead " needless to say they got thrown off the bridge and we went back to three on watch with a man on the wheel.
That’s funny !!!
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Originally Posted by
Captain Kong
On Blue Star ships in the 50s, Iron Mike was switched on during daylight hours so the wheel man could work, then in the night watches it was switched off so you had to do the wheel.
That makes sense. Although I do remember times being on the wheel in daylight hours, maybe for specific reasons though.
That leads to the next question, where did the term “farmer” come from.
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1st September 2018, 08:50 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
I guess he was the man who fed the animals. having no wheels to do.
On the URMSTON GRANGE we had Lamas and a baby Guanaco, loaded in the Magellan Straits, opposite Ushuaia, for the Zoos in England and Europe.
The Baby Guanaco had to be fed with a baby`s milk bottle every two hours by the Farmer.
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1st September 2018, 09:12 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
Originally Posted by
Captain Kong
I guess he was the man who fed the animals. having no wheels to do.
On the URMSTON GRANGE we had Lamas and a baby Guanaco, loaded in the Magellan Straits, opposite Ushuaia, for the Zoos in England and Europe.
The Baby Guanaco had to be fed with a baby`s milk bottle every two hours by the Farmer.
I like it. Good one.
On the Defoe, we brought back polo horses from BA, built makeshift stables beside #4. We got $hit for feeding them apples. (A rarity for L & H) It helped us ride out the usual crappy weather in the Bay on the way home.
Duke Drennan R809731
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1st September 2018, 09:31 PM
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Re: Iron Mike
Thats as i understood the term, in the early days sailing ships carried livestock for food, mainly chicken pigs and goats, and the man charged with their welfare was called the farmer. On the Baltic trader we carried a giraffe, it was for Von Opels private zoo in Germany. It was in a crate on deck, and if you forgot it was there when you were going aft at change of watch at night, it would reach down and nuzzle your neck, frighten the sh** out of you. We also ran out of spuds, as the lads kept giving him - her spuds from the spud locker nearby, so no spud for your meals for a few days. Cappy would have been chuffed, could have thrown his shiny new spud peeler away, kt
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