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    Default Re: Research assistance - can't find seaman's ship or records

    Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1920 (in German) Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries View Image
    Name: Jakob Williams Jacko Apasha˙
    Birth: year
    Death: dd mm 1916 - city, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)

    To view the original Image one will need a Subscription to Ancestry which at the present time I do not have,i am with FMP and unfortunately they do not have this info there!
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    So looks by all accounts that he may well have Died while in the CAMP!???

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    The men who spent the First World War in Germany's Ruhleben prison
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    No clue myself on this but add for food for thought.

    The German colony of Cameroon had French Equatorial Africa to the north and British Nigeria to the west. In early August 1914 the French and British invaded Cameroon. They captured Duala harbour, and embarked on an 18-month campaign against stiff German opposition.

    First World War - Cameroon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Vernon View Post
    Now according to the info at hand so far we have a wee problem in guessing which Ship called Sappho this one was
    There are a few but from dates a guess would be one of these,both official Numbers listed have Crew Lists at the NA Kew,but one would have to get these both to check??
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    If a crew list is downloaded the below may help to identify the correct ship ?

    My great grandfather Robert Bowditch was a Merchant Seaman aboard SS Sappho impounded in Hamburg and interned at Ruhleben in early November 1914. He died of pneumonia due to the terrible conditions two weeks later.

    My great grandfather, William Frank Butterworth (from Bristol), was 2nd engineer aboard SS Sappho when it was impounded at Hamburg. He spent the duration of the war at Ruhleben.

    The person on the Sappho was [Theodore] Oscar Pedersen born in Denmark who married Elizabeth Walker in 1874 in Gloucester. His occupation given at that time was seaman.

    What an intriguing situation! Could there have been two Pedersens, one Swedish and one Danish? If they were both on the Sappho they would have got to know each other and in Ruhleben, where there were so many educational courses specifically for seamen.

    The men who spent the First World War in Germany's Ruhleben prison

    Hopefully. this may assist at some stage ?

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    don't know if anyone can make out this Document but it is I think his Death Cert ??
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    Worked this out so far not Death Cert but Baptism

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    I have not read all as yet but, will look further later.

    This site currently contains the names of approximately 2083 out of 5500 prisoners who were interned at Ruhleben: In 1914, thousands of British civilians and merchant seamen, along with foreigners from other nationalities with British connections, were interned at the hastily constructed prisoner of war camp at Ruhleben racecourse by Spandau, near Berlin - THE RUHLEBEN STORY

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    Saw that Yesterday Keith and i think is not yet completed? I could not find this persons name !
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    Hello Doc,

    This is great information, thank you so much - and for the article.

    I was kind of hoping that he made it out of the camp and had a long, happy life.

    Kind regards,

    Sonia

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    Thank you, Keith.

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    Thanks, Keith.

    Never cease to be amazed that one individual has assembled this - that's dedication for you!

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    Hello there,

    Just when I thought there paper trail had gone stone cold...

    Yes, it's hard to decipher but will give it a go.

    All the best,

    Sonia

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    Thank you, Keith.

    Definitely food for thought...

    Best wishes,

    Sonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Vernon View Post
    don't know if anyone can make out this Document but it is I think his Death Cert ??
    Cheers

    Worked this out so far not Death Cert but Baptism

    Jahres Taufend
    neunbundent Yearly baptism

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    I am a bit puzzled on this, could you explain how you arrived at birth certificate please.

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