Well nice to know

[j.sabourn]

#7... Lewis here in Australia at least in WA don’t know about the others, but if you lived in the UK during the mad cow era they won’t Take your blood for others. Also believe if you are on medicinal tablets. I am listed on death for body part donations at least I was in uk, so doubt would be any use here. JWS

[Des Taff Jenkins]

Hi Lewis.
Despite all the talk about monkeys in Africa always having aids, {not the people} Aids was a medical experiment in American Jails that went wrong, can't remember what the experiment was for but at the time it was all hush hush, and as you know the only sex in jails is one way, and was then spread through the homosexual community.
Cheers Des

[happy daze john in oz]

Des you are correct there about Aids, it was a man made disease in an attempt to reduce the homosexual communities in some countries but it went horribly wrong.

But the UK was not alone in the contaminated blood, we had some come here to Oz but thankfully was discovered before much was used.

[john walker]

With all due respect guys #12 & 13 do you have any evidence to back those statements up ???

[John Pruden]

john I too think aids came out of a test tube? jp

[Captain Kong]

A young merchant Seaman who had been on the West Coast of Africa a few times took ill in Manchester and died in hospital, this was in the 1950s, they did not know what kind of disease had, something they had Never seen before. His tissue samples must have been preserved until later.

Then a few years ago it was revealed that he had AIDS. The very first known case of Aids. This was around 1953.
have a nice day
Brian.

[Lewis McColl]

Let's face it very possible it was a man made disease, call me cynical but drug companies will be making $ billions with drugs for those who have HIV.
A terrible disease but the ones you have to feel for are chilldren who are born HIV positive.

[Captain Kong]

You cannot make a virus, it is a living organism, only mutate an existing Virus.

[robpage]

this is yet another conspiracy theory , I use the Snopes website to check these theories , here is what SNOPES says

ORIGINS: The ghastly disease AIDS burst upon the scene in the early 1980s. Though this particular grim reaper has not long stalked among us, it has taken millions of lives and has staked its cold-fingered claim to millions more. That it seemed to appear out of nowhere has sparked a multitude of rumors regarding its origin and path of destruction. Rumors about AIDS include claims that it was:


An out-of-control germ warfare virus that escaped from its handlers.

Spread by specific ethnic groups (e.g., Haitians).

Put in the fluoride of our drinking water.

Put in K-Y Jelly by the Centers for Disease Control to eliminate homosexuals.

Developed by the CIA.

Developed by the Russians.

Created in Hitler’s laboratories.

Scientists are generally agreed that AIDS jumped the species barrier from chimpanzees to humans. (Chimpanzees host a virus called SIV, simian immunodeficiency virus, which is regarded as being similar to HIV.) AIDS is not the only new contagion to have begun in such fashion; Ebola and Marburg, two infectious diseases that kill incredible numbers of those who contract them, were passed to humans from monkeys.

It’s a simple explanation: Diseases live on by finding victims to infect, and diseases that jump species (sometimes undergoing changes in the process) find a whole new set of victims available to them. Yet this is too pat an explanation for many of us, and we tend to reject that which doesn’t fit well to our understanding of our world, substituting in its place myths that, although disturbing, at least seem more logical. We make

AIDS

the arrogant assumption that our world should always make sense according to our current level of knowledge; such a premise works well in most cases but breaks down in the face of matters our understanding does not yet encompass. At those moments at least some of us scramble to find explanations — any explanations — that can be shoehorned into service.

That a death-dealing plague could spring into being during our lifetimes defiles our cherished sense of order: deadly diseases don’t just come from nowhere, after all, at least not according to our understanding of the way of things. We’ve also grown to trust that Science always has the answer for everything. That this pestilence could defy the efforts of our best healers and researchers strikes us as flat-out wrong. Surely a natural malady would have been cured by now; ergo, we conclude, AIDS must be manmade. The disease’s sudden appearance and its tenacity have laid a foundation for rumors about biochemical pathogens that escaped the laboratory by accident and supported whispers that the virus was engineered to wipe out specific ethnic or racial groups. It is, after all, far more comforting to believe in malevolent forces like the CIA than to grasp that nature could spontaneously create incurable diseases.

Rumors about lab experiments gone wrong or deliberate attempts to decimate certain groups are part of our struggle to come to terms with the unfathomable, to reduce it to something that can be comprehended and dealt with. Also, the AIDS origin stories we tell give us someone to blame, providing us with the comfort of a whipping boy in place of the terror inherent to “It just happened; there was no because to it.” The acknowledgement that something so deadly could “just happen” is a starkly unforgiving reality that arrives accompanied by its chilling yet unstated companion message of “Something similar could happen again, maybe even tomorrow, and maybe even to us.” AIDS origin rumors reflect both western society’s anxiety about this dread killer and its attempts to make sense of it.

AIDS origin rumors fall into two categories: biological warfare experiments tried out on groups deemed expendable (Africans or Haitians) or deliberate attempts to diminish particular “unfavorable” populations (Africans, Haitians, homosexuals) via biochemical attack. In her study of AIDS origin lore, folklorist Patricia Turner identified a number of recurring motifs in the hundreds of versions of the rumor she collected:


A branch of the U.S. government was usually the author of the conspiracy — the CIA, the army, the Reagan administration, the Pentagon, the Centers for Disease Control, the far right, and “the superpowers.”
The contamination targets of the conspiracy were labeled as Africans or descendants of Africans, either directly or by implication (i.e., AIDS was developed to target Haitians, Africans, blacks, black babies, “the lower classes,” or “the outcasts of society”). Many informants identified more than one group, claiming, for instance, the conspiracy was intended to limit both the gay and the black populations.
The conspiracy was usually described as either an experiment that got out of hand or as an intentional use of biological, chemical, or germ warfare.
The spread of the disease through groups other than those intended by the conspirators (e.g., white heterosexuals) was described as a huge mistake.

That the first victims of AIDS were members of groups some deemed contemptible (homosexuals and drug users) supported belief that the disease had been deliberately manufactured for the purpose of ridding society of particular classes of undesirables. We now know AIDS is a blood-borne virus, but that knowledge was not in place when this new plague first began to take lives. In retrospect, it makes sense that the initial victims of AIDS would have been drawn largely from those two groups, but at the time the mechanism through which the disease spread was a mystery, a

condition that led some to latch onto a commonality between the two prevalent victim groups and accept an explanation based on that commonality. Likewise, those whose religious or moral bents led them to conclude homosexuals and drug users were abominations in the eyes of God looked not to the CIA as authors of the virus but to the Creator, seeing AIDS as a deliberate act by a fed-up deity to rid Himself of those who had broken His laws.

Part of the prevalence of the AIDS origin rumor that pins responsibility for the virus on the CIA (or another group within the American government) may be due to deliberate Soviet misinformation designed to discredit the USA. An article charging AIDS was the product of U.S. germ warfare experiments first surfaced in the Soviet newspaper Literary Gazette in 1985 and claimed the AIDS virus was created at a supersecret Army research laboratory in Fort Detrick, Maryland. The only source cited was the Patriot, a leftist Indian newspaper that, U.S. experts charged, was a favored conduit of the KGB for its disinformation campaigns.

In 1986 at a summit held in Zimbabwe, what purported to be a scholarly paper linking the U.S. military with AIDS was widely circulated. The authors did not have any expertise in AIDS research, but their offering was taken somewhat seriously by many who read it. The paper charged the disease had been introduced into Africa from Europe — not through homosexual practices or intravenous drug use, but by tainted blood supplies, which may have originated in the U.S. Its conclusion was unambiguous: AIDS was let loose on the world by biological warfare experimenters at Fort Detrick. That the rumor might well have been deliberately formulated by a foreign government at odds with the USA was an interesting curiosity.

Barbara “on the cold war path” Mikkelat SNOPES says about this one

[Bengy Roberts]

Drat !

double drat