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robin weeden
3rd February 2019, 09:19 PM
Hello... Im trying to find out information re my father He served on the above ship in the 20s Ive lots of photos from around Europe from his time on board How can I find out what his job was ? I was 14 when he died so never got the chance to ask.... Can anyone help ?

Ive found out info re the ship apparently the first Arcadian was sunk in WW1 in the Med. Another one was refurbished by the Royal Mail and renamed after the war this was the Arcadian he was on fortunately

Ron B Manderson
3rd February 2019, 09:48 PM
Welcome to the site Robin.
Mate, be ready to repell borders.
I'm sure the members will come up with some info.
Ron The batcave

Chris Allman
3rd February 2019, 11:29 PM
Good evening Robin and welcome to the site - in order to find out more about your father, members will need to know his full name - DOB and any further information you can supply about him, I have researched the ship for you as follows :-

Arcadian - Off No 124669 - Passenger Liner - built 1907 by Harland & Wolff for Royal Mail - launched as Asturias - 1914 requisitioned by the Admiralty and converted as a Hospital Ship renamed HMHS Asturias - 1917 torpedoed and beached - salvaged and towed to Plymouth - declared a Total Loss - used as Ammunition Hulk 1917 to 1919 - 1920 Hulk returned to owners and repaired and converted to Cruise Liner renamed Arcadian - 12,015 GRT - LOA 520' 3" ( 158.6m ) - Beam - 62' 3" ( 19m ) - Draught 31' 8" ( 9.7m ) - Twin Screws - 1930 laid up - 1933 broken up in Japan.

Hope this helps.

Doc Vernon
3rd February 2019, 11:51 PM
Yes Welcome Robin and as suggested by our Moderator Chris we will need all that info so as we may be of some help.
Will await your reply.
Hope you Enjoy what we have on offer here

4th February 2019, 08:18 AM
#3... Just out of interest when you quote draft figures and statistics as mentioned,these must have. All been converted from linear measurements of feet and inches .There was no such things as metric. measurements in British ships in those days. I always sailed deepsea with draft figures being 6 inches and other measurements one could understand. All depths on charts were in fathoms and feet not metres as today. They were. Changed to make it easier for some I suppose. Maybe in line with E.U. commands ? The conversions to such must alone have cost huge amounts of money. Even when talking about weight there were long tons or short tons, the metric ton was a stowaway not really taken as a threat until too late. For many on this site who left the sea prior to 1970 their knowledge of the likes of the deep sea lead and hand lead would do them no good ,as no one would. Understand what they were talking about. This knowledge is not going off the subject but may be of help to Robin when he is trying to visualise some of the future figures as regards. Ships he may be given. Cheers JS.

Chris Allman
4th February 2019, 09:40 AM
Point taken John - I have further researched the ship from Harland and Wolff records and supplied the dimensions in feet and inches. See above.

4th February 2019, 09:49 AM
May even get round to the bent bananas yet. Leave that for those off the freezer ships. JS

robin weeden
4th February 2019, 11:59 AM
Hello Gents... thank you for your welcome and prompt research. Re the info you require. His name was Ernest Weeden DOB 13 August 1900 from West London The only photo I have of him in uniform shows him in what I would call a plain uniform with a white peaked cap. As he took so many photos he might have been a ships photographer as I think his ship delivered mail and took fee paying tourists on board. Ive no photos of any tourists though. As far as I know he didn't return to sea after his time on this ship

Doc Vernon
4th February 2019, 06:43 PM
Ernest Weeden Discharge Book Number R24341
Assistant Photographer
Ship Arcadian O/N 124669 Discharged on 1/2/1927



Harland and Wolff - Shipbuilding and Engineering Works (http://www.theyard.info/ships/ships.asp?entryid=388)

4th February 2019, 11:14 PM
Robin ref. The white peaked cap. The only definite information one can get from your hat is that the photo was taken in the summertime. Previous to about about 1960. The RN used to only wear the white cap cover in the UK in the summer months , otherwise it was just the plain black cap with no cap cover. The MN followed this tradition. In later years the white cover was worn all year round. Who knows !!! maybe that was was the real start of climate change. Cheers JS

robin weeden
5th February 2019, 10:08 PM
Hello Gents thanks for your research You've confirmed my thoughts re him being a photographer due to all the photos. I see he was discharged in 1927, the Arcadian was laid up in 1930 so he missed its last three years. On returning to West London he ended up working at HMV/EMI till he died in 1964 He was a good Dad took me to the Greenwich Naval Museum the football Fulham and Brentford, watched me play for the primary school, and to the cinema John Wayne films. Thanks for all your help in clearing this up for me

Doc Vernon
5th February 2019, 10:17 PM
Well Robin
Glad we could have been of some help.
Good to know that you have cleared things up.
Nice Memories of your dear Dad,like a lot here I guess!
All the best

robin weeden
6th February 2019, 10:44 AM
Hello Gents Thank you for all your research You confirmed my thinking that my father did have something to do with photography. I assume he was employed to take photos of the tourists on board the Arcadian. I see the ship was laid up in 1930 so it only had 10years service

My father came home and worked for HMV/EMI in west London ( Hayes ) He was a good father did a lot of things with me as a boy He took me to football Fulham and Brentford watched me play for the primary school.Took me to the cinema John Wayne films I remember Rio Bravo, and also to the Royal Maritime museum at Greenwich,after a boat ride up the Thames which I thought was very exciting !! well I was about 8. He died suddenly aged 64 in 1964 ..Thanks again for all your help