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Captain Kong
5th July 2016, 01:29 PM
Did anyone see the program on Bliar last night? it was on at 8pm to 9pm. on Channel 4 or 5. Very Interesting
It was about how he made his millions up to £100,000,000 since leaving Office.
He also gets a Ministers Pension of £65,000 a year Plus £84,000 a year to keep his office in London going. Paid for by the Tax payers.
He owns 6 Mansions in Buckinghamshire and 27 Apartments, in and around London. He pays £1,000 000 a year, [One Million Pounds] to a Hotel overseas to keep the Top Floor only for himself. He has a Private Jet to travel around the world in.
So the signs of a True Socialist.!!!!
It was also about his decision to Invade Iraq. and the deaths of British Service people.
No mention of the Death of Doctor Kelly, the Arms Inspector, who warned him that there was "No Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq and was found Dead in a field 48 hours later.??????????? should be questioned about that.
Brian.

John Albert Evans
5th July 2016, 02:03 PM
Brian,

I watched the program and was dissapointed because it didn't say anything about him that wasn't already known. It was just a mish mash of bits and pieces that you can find easily on the internet. As for him owning all those properties I think if the facts where known they are owned by his wife, the delectable Cherie, either on her own or jointly with their eldest son Euan, no doubt for tax purproes. All in all a poor show I thought.

John

Ivan Cloherty
5th July 2016, 04:39 PM
Brian,

his wife, the delectable Cherie,
John

Jeez I hope that was sarcasm John, her grin is enough to frighten a bogey man

Captain Kong
5th July 2016, 04:47 PM
She is a multi millionaires and was caught travelling on the Train without a Ticket and was charged.
I certainly would not like to wake up in a morning and find her sat on my face.
Brian

John Albert Evans
5th July 2016, 07:26 PM
Ivan...............20826

John:grinsign:

Des Taff Jenkins
6th July 2016, 01:40 AM
Hi Brian.
As soon as I saw the news on the death of that Dr who put Blair's weights up over the weapons of mass destruction I knew he had been done by MI5. Blair will go down as the biggest shyster in British History.
Cheers Des

John Arton
6th July 2016, 08:09 AM
I posted my bit about Blair in Brians thread "Politicians". Those teeth are everywhere these days. Ugh!!!
rgds
JA

Keith Tindell
6th July 2016, 02:33 PM
He may have made £millions, but i wonder if he sleeps well, knowing that his call, which now is exposed as a bad one , killed thousands of humans , including our service personnel. I was in a job for 30 years that was no 1 job to save lives, and i can only imagine if i had made a call that cost lives, would have stayed with me forever, but politicians seem to be exempt from that emotion. Blair apologises but said it was the right call, kt

Chris Allman
6th July 2016, 03:48 PM
He has got no conscience whatsoever. I suspect he sleeps very well, safe in the knowledge that he is a very rich man and that nothing will happen to him to alter that. He will think that this is just a hiccup that will soon vanish in the clouds of Brexit and political party leadership battles and will be soon forgotten. I am afraid that, that, is probably what will happen and justice for the poor fallen and injured in Iraq will never be achieved. Its a bloody unfair and awful world in more ways than one, the guilty flourish and the innocent suffer - Ad nauseam.

Captain Kong
6th July 2016, 04:32 PM
Teflon Tony, a greasy snake slithers out of reach again.
He must drink plenty of Horlicks to sleep at night.
I think he is completely mental, A million lives just does not faze him.
He was the Star of the Show today and loved every minute.
And his wife a "Human Rights " Lawyer. how does she reconcile his actions with her job?
No matter how much money they have they both live in the same Snake Pit.
Brian

j.sabourn
7th July 2016, 03:51 AM
Would like to have been an ear at the door of the tent on his last discussion with Gaddafi. To think that this man has been vouchsafed as an expert on Middle eastern Affairs and probably been also paid by the taxpayer for his inglorious title. Certainly beats me. Skulduggery and not buggery being the word I believe. JWS

happy daze john in oz
7th July 2016, 05:44 AM
The saddest part of this, under current international laws he cannot be charged with any crimes.

When you consider some of the persons tried after WW2 and dispatched it makes me wonder why not him?

What he did was no different in many ways to the events of WW, the only difference, if any, is this occurred in what we loving call 'peace time'.

j.sabourn
7th July 2016, 08:03 AM
#12.. The one who springs to mind John is William Joyce. He never dirtied his hands in the killing, was a supposedly Irish citizen, gave up his British Citizenship for German, which was denied by the relevant authorities. Was employed by the German Ministry of Propoganda, and was executed as a traitor after the war. Today he would have got a 6 months suspended sentence. JWS

j.sabourn
8th July 2016, 12:21 AM
I heard somewhere that in the report sometime ago that there was mention that before the yanks bombed him from a base in the UK, that he communicated to Gaddiffi to keep his head down. Hence the target was missed and some of his family died instead. Believe this is also in the thousands of pages report. JWS

gray_marian
8th July 2016, 01:32 AM
#13, John, William Brooke Joyce was an American-born Irish-British Fascist politician and as you know a Nazi propaganda broadcaster. He was hanged at Wandsworth Prison by Albert Pierrepoint....Good enough for him...... As for T Blair get him where it really hurts, strip him of assets earned during and after his time in office.. Blood money, Middle East peace envoy:rolleyes: His charity accounts should be re-scrutinized. You can then guarantee any future budding PM will not be complacent and will be held to account for his actions during office..... Leave him enough cash for a roll of duck tape to cover the mouth of his free loading wife. :mad:

j.sabourn
8th July 2016, 03:41 AM
The American Air Base was in Suffolk where the bombers took off from to bomb Libya. Wife and self spent a long weekend at base as she knew an American family. It was noticeable to me that most of the men on this base were not the youngsters one expects to see on British forces bases. The bloke we knew was about 38 at the time and had joined the air force only a couple of years previously and was an ex Bank Clerk. Nice bloke and family. He was on the flight crew of one of the massive transport planes as a navigator and was continuously ferrying in stores for the base from the US, the base was self contained and very few familys ever left its perimeter. Had a great time however. Still keep in contact with same. Cheers JWS

Fouro
8th July 2016, 03:49 AM
Joyce was also known as Lord Haw Haw . I remember listening to him on the radio. He always started by saying "Germany Calling".

FOURO.

happy daze john in oz
8th July 2016, 06:13 AM
Marian #15, I agree he shouls be striped but who will do it? No politician for fear that thye may go the same way and who would be willing to prove how he fiddled his way to the millions?

Politicians such as Blood money Blair give the public good reason to hate and distrust all politicians. There have been some who did good, the one who brought in the NHS springs to mind.

But they are mostly there for them, not us.

here in Oz we now have 6 ex Prime ministers all getting a bucket load of perks. Costing the nation billions that e can ill afford. No normal worker gets treated in this manner so why should they be any different, they are after all employed by us the people!

Des Taff Jenkins
8th July 2016, 06:45 AM
Hi John
What puzzles me is why they can't try Blair, Bush and Howard for war crimes, they did just that to the leaders of the Bosnian Serbs and they were defending their country from being errun by the same mossies. From what I could see Saddam was no threat to the British,other than maybe taking control of the oil reserves, The good old USofA of course wanted to hide the fact that they supplied the gas that Saddam used on the Kurd's, and Gadaffi was of course using his oil money to get his people into the modern age through a huge fresh water pipeline under the desert; when he should have been selling it cheap to Bush's mates.
Cheers Des

John Arton
8th July 2016, 09:37 AM
Question Time last night and again politicians on the panel showed their total ignorance.
Discussing Blair and Chilcot and the aftermath of the Iraq war , a number of the politicians answered in the affirmative to the question "is the world a safer place after the demise of Saddam Husain"
What b.s.
When he was in power in Iraq (and Gadaffi in Libya) I cannot recall any terrorist attacks by mlim extremists in London, Paris, Brussels,Madrid, Boston, Los Angeles, Medina, Bagdad, etc. nor millions of refugees streaming through Turkey or crossing the Medi. in attempting to reach Europe.
O.K. so he was a nasty dictator who slaughtered thousands of his own people but remember the violence was contained within the shores of his country and not spread throughout the middle east and beyond. By the very nature of the population of those countries along with their religious views, they can only be controlled by strong dictators, whether the rest of the world agrees with them or not and never forget that eventually, as history has proven over the centuries, dictatorships eventually die out naturally.
rgds
JA

vic mcclymont
8th July 2016, 10:03 AM
John, agree with your sentiments.
If the reason to remove Saddam was violence to his own people, why are we not sending troops to remove Mugabe, who impoverishes his own people and locks up dissedents routinely?
On the same theme why not bomb the hell out of Kim Jong of North Korea.
One of the reasons they went after Saddam was that in 2000, he started trading his oil in Euros and not Dollars, thus hurting the USA.
Regards
Vic

happy daze john in oz
9th July 2016, 06:15 AM
Hi John
What puzzles me is why they can't try Blair, Bush and Howard for war crimes, they did just that to the leaders of the Bosnian Serbs and they were defending their country from being errun by the same mossies. From what I could see Saddam was no threat to the British,other than maybe taking control of the oil reserves, The good old USofA of course wanted to hide the fact that they supplied the gas that Saddam used on the Kurd's, and Gadaffi was of course using his oil money to get his people into the modern age through a huge fresh water pipeline under the desert; when he should have been selling it cheap to Bush's mates.
Cheers Des


According to one human rights lawyer here there is no possibility of them being tried for war crimes as they did not go out to kill off the people. Wars such as those in Bosnia etc were different as it was Ethnic cleansing, the Iraq war was not such but rather an attempt to remove what some considered a hazard to the world. The fact that there was no such evidence found does not make it illegal. For them to be brought to trial the prosecution would need to show intent to do harm to other than the alleged head of state in Iraq at the time.