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Jim Brady
19th September 2015, 04:02 PM
I read somewhere the other day that only 40% of the hordes crossing Europe are Syrian this means 60% are coming from God knows where,today on one news channel it was said only one third were Syrian.I wonder did Angela Merkel have any idea of the make up of all these people that she has invited into Germany and in fact telling the rest of Europe that they must take their share.I think maybe it is the 60% that are causing the trouble,they don't want tobe interviewed and processed most of them don't have paperwork and maybe they wouldn't get any further than where they are.I think once they get into Germany they will disappear for fear of being deported the whole thing is going to be chaotic and I'l be glad if we just stick to taking them from refugee camps at least we will know where they are from (or will we ???)
Regards.
Jim.B.

Captain Kong
19th September 2015, 04:30 PM
They are from all over the Moo, slim, countries of the Middle east and North Africa down to Nigeria, some have said they are from Bangladesh, others from Pa kist an, and West Africa, , Somalia , Sudan etc
and it has been reported a few times from various sources, that some are from IS, Al Shabaab and Boko Haram, It is strange that three quarters of them are all young fit healthy men of a fighting age.
480,000 have come into Europe so far this year, so that means around 360,000 or roughly a third of a Million are all young fit healthy men.
That is a powerful army when the call for the forth coming Jihad happens.
Saudi Arabia is reported to be financing it all.
Has anyone wondered why not one of the wealthy Arab moo, slim, nations do not take them.??
Iran, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, including Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi , and the rest all refuse to take them.
They are the same religion have plenty of mosks, they all have plenty of oil rich money. so why???
As Gadhafi said, "We don't have to fight the West , we will take over by weight of numbers."
His forecast is coming True.
Welcome to WW3
Es salaam
Brian

Frederick Lacey
19th September 2015, 04:50 PM
Hi Jim, agree, Headlines today.. 4 out of 5 migrants aren't Syrians, The EU logged 213,000 arrivals in April,May and June
but only 44,000 of them were fleeing the Syrian civil war. Merkel and her cronies said yes we will take 800,000 but are
now backtracking, perhaps the Krauts after all these years are suddenly feeling guilty about the millions of innocents they
exterminated in the Camps and Gas Chambers, but I myself doubt it, They tried to take over Europe by force twice, and are
now trying to take over by so called peaceful means with the help of the french who don't forget arrested thousands of their
own Jews to be transported to the German death camps, even Hitler couldn't believe they would do such a thing.....F.
,

Keith Tindell
19th September 2015, 05:15 PM
I saw the same report Jim, but these people get rid of all means of identification, so if you try to deport them its impossible, eg if you want to send them back to Nigeria, they want proof of who they are. The mind boggles as to where we go with this lot, trouble for many years to come. You cannot blame them for taking advantage of our bloody stupid system, its there to be fiddled, kt

j.sabourn
20th September 2015, 04:51 AM
Never saw the east berliners before the wall came down making such a concentrated effort to get out, wonder why. JS

John Pruden
20th September 2015, 06:48 AM
a freezing winter might change a few minds on returning to their homelands . the thousands of young men should have stayed and fought for their country? jp

j.sabourn
20th September 2015, 07:40 AM
#6 Why should they do that John, when they can get other mugs to do it for them JS

Captain Kong
20th September 2015, 08:25 AM
Hi John P,
the thousands of young men should have stayed and fought for their country? jp

ONE DAY THEY WILL ALL BE FIGHTING IN EUROPE FOR THEIR RELIGION.
Es salaam.
Brian

John Arton
20th September 2015, 08:51 AM
In our house any sympathy for these migrants (or whatever you want to call them) disappeared long ago when you see them all well dressed, well fed and all holding mobile phones. Sky news has tracked one family consisting of twin boys of around 16 years old, the father, mother and young girl. They found them in Greece and yesterday picked them up at the Hungarian border after they had supposedly trekked all the way from some Greek island, Despite all the hardships? they had endured they all looked remarkably fit and well fed and neatly groomed, even wearing new clothes. The twin boys spoke reasonable English but their father appeared to speak little or non yet when one of the twins started explaining (in English) their past life and how they managed to trek across so many countries yet still appear so fit and well the father appeared to suddenly understand everything his son was saying and appeared to tell him to shut up (in his own language).
I doubt if many of these migrants are true refugees, most of them despite claiming to be well educated (Iraqi dentist, Syrian doctor etc) all act like typical Arabs scrambling for any hand out, leaving their wives and children behind in many cases, just in order that they can make it to Europe where they can sit on their arses and enjoy a far better life on benefits than they ever could have had in their native country. They all seem to have thrown away an I.D. documents they may have had so what's the point of processing them and giving them papers at the borders of the Schengen countries. They could be radical clerics, IS fighters, terrorists yet without having proof of any I.D. on them Europe is letting them in and giving them papers.
The mind boggles yet to date not one news channel or t.v. debate has raised these very important questions.
The mind boggles.
rgds
JA

Captain Kong
20th September 2015, 08:55 AM
I have just received this email from a mate in Queensland,.......................
.

I don’t wish to be cynical, but has anyone got past the obvious rush of sympathy for these apparently disadvantaged people and looked at what other agendas may be in play in this drama. Particularly question number 5.


Can someone please explain the following regarding the Syrian refugees arriving in Europe from worn torn destinations. To be fair, none of us would want to live there under those conditions, but if it was our country, I for one would be staying put and fighting for it.

1/ How come they all seem to have endless supplies of money to pay the people traffickers?

2/ Why do most appear to have working and expensive mobile phones with GPS facility?

3/ Most appear well dressed and fed, many are seen smoking and do not appear to be suffering from any effects of malnutrition.

4/ Most of the refugees are men of military age.

5/ Why are other ****** nations not helping their fellow ******s???? (Saudi, Kuwait, U.A.E. Indonesia, Malaysia to name but a few)

6/ How come the two boys and their mother drowned off the Turkish coast can be returned for burial to the place they fled so quickly, to what is firmly held I.S. territory?


Could it be they are being paid to come to Europe as a way to increase the ****** population and get IS fighters embedded in Europe? We all know life is cheap from an I.S. point so the loss of a few lives along the way has no meaning for them as long as it benefits their cause. Just a thought.
...................................
I have sent similar mails to Cameron several times but no response.
Brian

Jim Brady
20th September 2015, 09:01 AM
I see Hammond and Kerry met up to discuss Syria they say if they get rid of Assad it will stop this movement of people across Europe.Has nobody told them that only about a third of the people on the move are from Syria,could they be looking for a scrap with Assad and his ally Putin.????
Regards.
Jim.B.

Brian #10 there is no guarantee that the people with the mobiles and money are Syrians fleeing the war there they could be from anywhere that's where the problem lies.

john sutton
20th September 2015, 09:27 AM
God bless hungary

Captain Kong
20th September 2015, 10:49 AM
Brian #10 there is no guarantee that the people with the mobiles and money are Syrians fleeing the war there they could be from anywhere that's where the problem lies.

Jim
I did not write that, I said it was a copy of an email from a mate in Queensland.

I have said several times that they come from Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, Pakistan, etc etc .
Cheers
Brian

Captain Kong
20th September 2015, 11:13 AM
I have just got another email .....
The "REFUGEES" ARE THROWING AWAY food parcels from the Red Cross and also Cartons of bottles of fresh water, onto the railway line,. as it is Not Halal......................#
Let them Starve.

The food and water were provided by the Red Cross and was not acceptable
because - the Cross is a "Christian" symbol. Perhaps also the water was not
certified Halal!!
Why was it not on TV ? They discard food and water and there is
predominance of young men?


Click on the link below:
Bicske: a rendőrség intézkedik
or copy and paste on google

Keith Tindell
20th September 2015, 02:24 PM
I have just watched that clip Brian, I think it is Norsk, or may be Swedish, so cannot read the text,however, you aintseen anything yet, wait till their dreams of being given houses,money and education fails to materialise and then watch them kick off. Not going to be pretty in years to come.They will not show this behaviour on TV for fear of the public kicking off. Kt

Captain Kong
20th September 2015, 02:42 PM
Welcome to WW3 KT. The text is I believe Hungarian. tho` could be wrong.
Cheers
Brian

Keith Tindell
20th September 2015, 02:46 PM
Just checked it out Brian, it is Hungarian,and apparently means *police take action *. Not enough action as far as i'm cocerned, kt

gray_marian
20th September 2015, 03:48 PM
#1, Is this the clip Brian? The children in the clip had more sense! Bicske: a rendőrség intézkedik - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhI0Xqv5Rc)

The second clip shows a husband pull his wife and babe in arms onto the track because she is crying/conversing with the police whilst he is sitting, lo and behold a camera appears and he kicks off. Next he wrestles her to the rails. There was no need for that as he could simply have moved her further down the platform. He then tries to keep her down with his body, all for the camera's benefit?? This was shown on the News Channels here but it was so quick, that it looked as if the couple had been manhandled whereas the police were trying to remove him as it was he who was restraining the wife and child. The baby's face was on the track at one point thankfully unharmed. All his own doing:mad:

Chris Allman
20th September 2015, 03:54 PM
There are no doubt genuine refugees among the hoards, however I suspect that the majority is made up of illegal immigrants and probably a large number of terrorists. B Liar and Bush are ultimately responsible for all this as the war in Iraq was the fuse that has lit this explosion. I cannot see an end to this in reality as these people have the taste of other countries in their mouths and lets face it who wouldn't when you see whats on offer in Europe. To my mind, even if we put NATO boots on the ground and defeated I.S. who would want to go back to the total wreckage, devastation and lawlessness that is Syria and Iraq and with the prospect of having to rebuild everything from scratch, including honest governments, not the now late population or otherwise, for sure, especially if they have been housed, fed and watered all for free.

The future does not bode well for any country whether in Europe or not whilst this mass exodus is in progress and some way must be found to halt it and if possible reverse it. Many of these so called refugees have shown their colors already by the use of violence and criminal acts, no self respecting country wants them among its population stirring up hatred and anger as they, including the UK, have enough problems of their own. The do-gooders in this world have a lot to answer for and in many ways have to accept responsibility for the escalation of the invasion of Europe, because that's what it is, an illegal invasion.

Russia holds the key as any landings by NATO or International Forces would have to have its support otherwise WW3 could well become a reality. Putin has apparently just told both the UK and USA to go away in jerky movements when they suggested that Bashar al-Assad should be deposed - IS be defeated and peace returned to Syria.

What is the next step, I don't know, but would love to hear members views :bigsmile:

John Pruden
20th September 2015, 05:30 PM
we will take in the homeless the hungry the down trodden feed home cloth them but will they bother to mix not much chance ? most come from dirt roads no electricity running water proper sanitation in two years time they will riot in the streets because they have no 50in flat screen on the wall or Ł400.00 mobile to play with why should one man assad be allowed to run a country just take him out and take over his country simple? jp

gray_marian
20th September 2015, 11:11 PM
Saudi Arabia Has 100,000 Tents for 3 Million People Sitting Empty. The tents are only used 5 days per year for pilgrims to Mecca (approx 8 km from Mecca) The tents are made of fire-resistant materials and all have A/C. Every tent has speakers, thermostats and fire alarm. A total of 3 million people can be accommodated. Would be the perfect city for all the Mozzies fleeing their countries? and much closer?

Cannot find a link that transfers. Copy & paste this on google and it will come up youtube tent city in Mina

Des Taff Jenkins
21st September 2015, 01:34 AM
HI Marian.
My wife and I watch the TV show 'Escape to the country" and pine for the Gardens and lovely countryside in Britain, but I think if we lived there we would do our own Escape FROM the country after seeing all those terrorists trying and succeeding to enter Europe and the UK.
Cheers Des

gray_marian
21st September 2015, 02:51 AM
An American's point of view....https://www.youtube.com/embed/6PzT8vEvYPg

j.sabourn
21st September 2015, 04:33 AM
From the very first of these discussions about the EU, I and many others have been opponents of the dropping of border controls and in general against the whole idea of a united Europe as one. The Common Market was acceptable, but the proposal of all nations living as one with the mixture of religious nutters and exponents of different ways of life, a simple person with less intelligence than what is supposed to be at the helm of countries could foresee the outcome, it does not take an Einstein. Different cultures only live alongside each other in very well controlled circumstances and even then are liable for quick flare ups. Since time began for the human animal race and others of the animal world this has always been the case. The tribal system eras also, most of the Middle East culture is still at the working level of Babylon of old. This is the culture they live and want to stay at in most cases, they should be left to perform their own rituals and own lifestyles without interruption from outside sources. In other words stay in their own backyards and mix with their own kind. The world would be a happier place if some countries minded their own business, and looked after their own terroritry. If threatened with force reply in kind, I certainly am not a believer in turning the other cheek, and more in keeping an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. The middle east to add to the turmoil there is further aggravated by the usual monetary gains to be had in the form of oil, and the west must take some stick for the mishandling of this greed also. JS

j.sabourn
21st September 2015, 07:22 AM
#23... Have just now opened the " An Americans Point of View". Everything that this Lady says is thought by most sane people in the west, apart from America where it is more critical. I give up on western politicians in general they seem to be mostly illiterate in the ways of the world and ninkanpoops to any general idea of an intelligent human being. You have all these countries jumping on the band wagon of a united Europe which is never going to happen in the sense that its inventors envisaged, they were the biggest nut cases of all and not fit for the positions they held in the hierarchy. Those flooding Europe now come knowing that money is distributed from machines on the streets, maybe some of them will form a new religion and make these machines their cash cows instead of the ordinary ones some worship. Then you have a country like Greece the inventor of Democracy which has now become a slave to Europe, all these handouts given free gratis to the hordes should in fact be given to Greece to retain its dignity and sovereignity. Some European Union. All I can say is get the hell out of it of it before it destroys what little semblance of freedom you have left. It may appear to some on this site that too much is said on this subject, but this is the only way that the men sitting in undisclosed offices and marking the feelings of the people, are ever going to put across, change only comes about through people kicking up, if you don't there will be no change. If there were a few hundred thousand like Brian pestering the likes of certain departments you would soon see change, as soon as these people see their own jobs threatened you watch the change of course. JS

Captain Kong
21st September 2015, 10:05 AM
Just received this from two friends in Australia and one in Virginia US,

Hijrah; jihad by emigration

This will be big trouble.

It appears the policies of the liberal socialist leaders in Europe
and the US do not want to keep these lands from being overrun.
Why????

I couldn't figure out why other Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE,
Oman, etc.) weren't taking in refugees, so I started digging.

Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order
to bring I**** there and is considered in I**** to be a holy and
revered action. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will
find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his
home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death
overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah.”
(4:100) So if a M***** dies in the process, that's essentially the
same as being a suicide bomber, his reward is automatic. This explains
the great eagerness to undertake such a perilous journey.

Muhammad and his followers emigrated from Mecca to Yathrib/Medina in
622 CE. It was there that he became a military leader. This is where
all the commands to commit violence against unbelievers originate
from. It's important to note that the Islamic calendar marks this as
the beginning of I****.

This current massive hijrah was announced last January although few
paid the announcement much attention. A supporter (or member) of ISIS
uploaded a document in Arabic that urged M*****s to get to Lybia for
its proximity to southern Europe and for the important tactical value
of its illegal immigration circuits to facilitate infiltration of
European cities ("It has a long coast and looks upon the southern
Crusader states, which can be reached with ease by even a rudimentary
boat”).

In February, transcripts of telephone intercepts published in Italy
said ISIS was threatening to send 500,000 migrants as a "psychological
weapon" against Europe. The Italian Minister for the Interior,
Angelino Alfano, said at the time, "If the militias of the Caliphate
advance faster than the decisions of the international community how
can we put out the fire in Libya and stem the migration flows? We are
at risk of an exodus without precedent."

Also in February, the Turkish intelligence service warned police that
up to 3,000 trained jihadistswere seeking to cross into Turkey from
Syria and Iraq and then travel through Bulgaria and Hungary into
western Europe.

From Syria, to Hungary, then into the rest of Europe. Sound familiar?

In May, a Libyan government adviser warned that Islamic State
operatives were being “smuggled to Europe in migrant boats..” ISIS is
profiting from the human trafficking trade, forcing boat owners to
hand over their profits or be killed. Some ISIS operatives are already
sheltered in safe houses in the south of the Europe. Groups of men, 17
to 25, from Palestine and Syria, cross into Bulgaria and from there
move into the rest of the EU. A former Al Qaeda double agent told the
BBC that he knew of two Egyptian brothers who reached Italy from
Libya, accompanied by men who were "deeply religious and fluent in
Italian and French."

Go watch the videos of those "refugees" again. How many of the
"refugees" are 17-25 year old men?

If that doesn't convince you, we already know terrorists are coming
through with the waves of refugees: a week ago five men were arrested
attempting to cross the Bulgarian-Macedonian border with Islamic State
propaganda, specific Jihadists prayers, and decapitation videos on
their phones. They had been posing as refugees. UK Independence Party
leader leader Nigel Farage warned: “I fear we face a direct threat to
our civilization if we allow large numbers of people from that war
torn region into Europe

happy daze john in oz
21st September 2015, 12:18 PM
Very little baggage, very few families, passports and papers found dumped in large numbers. Mainly men on the march and some with enough money for a taxi at 100Euro?? Are they refugees or just illegal entrants chancing their arm on this one? Why after almost four years of civil war are they now on the move? This is not a simple case of refugees I fear, there is more behind this but somehow I do not thin k we will find out for some time yet.

Keith Tindell
21st September 2015, 12:49 PM
You are so right with that John, the backlash will be some time down the line. Remember also for every one the Krauts are advocating entry for, they will be importing all their reli's at a later date, cousins , uncles, second cousins etc, and we wont know who they are from start to finish, kt

john gill
21st September 2015, 01:12 PM
#28. Oh dear, can we still call our Teutonic allies Krauts? We have to disguise references to certain foreign/ ethnic groups on here- eg p***s, m*****s etc, even Geor***s and Sco***rs, so as to not offend. Although calling the French a nation of wine swilling, garlic chewing surrender monkeys seems to be acceptable.

Captain Kong
21st September 2015, 01:18 PM
Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order
to bring I**** there and is considered in I**** to be a holy and
revered action. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will
find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his
home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death
overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah.”
(4:100) So if a M***** dies in the process, that's essentially the
same as being a suicide bomber, his reward is automatic. This explains
the great eagerness to undertake such a perilous journey
.
WELCOME TO THE START OF WORLD WAR 3.
I sent a copy to Cameron and the Members of the Cabinet, I would only hope some common sense comes out of it.

cappy
21st September 2015, 01:26 PM
#28. Oh dear, can we still call our Teutonic allies Krauts? We have to disguise references to certain foreign/ ethnic groups on here- eg p***s, m*****s etc, even Geor***s and Sco***rs, so as to not offend. Although calling the French a nation of wine swilling, garlic chewing surrender monkeys seems to be acceptable.##best laugh today....cappy

Ivan Cloherty
21st September 2015, 02:39 PM
Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order
to bring I**** there and is considered in I**** to be a holy and
revered action. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will
find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his
home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death
overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah.”
(4:100) So if a M***** dies in the process, that's essentially the
same as being a suicide bomber, his reward is automatic. This explains
the great eagerness to undertake such a perilous journey
.
WELCOME TO THE START OF WORLD WAR 3.
I sent a copy to Cameron and the Members of the Cabinet, I would only hope some common sense comes out of it.

Send a copy to the Daily Mail Brian, although according to past posts not many on here will read it, but it still has the largest circulation, so maybe the moo slims are reading it so you may get a minaret stuck up your ar*e

happy daze john in oz
22nd September 2015, 05:37 AM
Bit on the news today, one of the ISIS training camps has gained permission to put some members, all fully trained, into Indonesia, Java in particular.

John Pruden
22nd September 2015, 07:39 AM
with families getting separated at train stations loosing members of family a lot of them must have shot themselves in the foot dumping their passports it may take months/years to find each other again? jp

Captain Kong
22nd September 2015, 08:37 AM
I would shoot them all, they are an Invading Army sent by Saudi Arabia,
Saudi said they will build 200 mosks in Germany.
The moo, slim,s always build a ring of mosks around any area they conquer, that is why I have a ring of 42 of them around me.
They are dedicated to turning europe into a, cali ph ate. and our stupid politicians still do not understand.
This is WW3.

john gill
22nd September 2015, 09:05 AM
#35. Apparently Kong, there would be no objection to the building of 200 mosks in The Fatherland with the proviso that the Israeli's supply the cranes.

John Pruden
23rd September 2015, 06:28 AM
it's going to be good to see the face on Angela when she is getting dictated to by immigrants spouting eu laws to her.. jp

j.sabourn
23rd September 2015, 07:30 AM
Will send over a team from the maritime unions to supply the crane drivers, that should see Germany broke in a matter of weeks. JS

j.sabourn
23rd September 2015, 08:27 AM
#31... Cappy without trying to betray too many confidences my mother 5ft 1 inch in her high heels with an indominable Scottish talent for words, in any argument with the old man used to say he had a Germanic head, when myself got older in any affray with words she would also say I had a Germanic head. Would you say she was trying to be politically correct or just that we had big heads. She was quite aware of the word Kraut as they had tried to machine gun her during a daylight raid in the London area where a messershmitt had flown over at roof level. There were still bullet holes in the front door area last time I visited. The things we would have liked to have asked our parents now that they are dead are numerous the Germanic Head is one. Cheers John S

Jim Brady
23rd September 2015, 08:39 AM
Yes German Head was used quite a bit in Liverpool.The story was the little lad says to his mother,all the kids in school say I've got a big head,the mother says you haven't got a big head take no notice of them,right, now go and get me 10pound of spuds in your cap.
Regards.
Jim.B.

cappy
23rd September 2015, 08:48 AM
#31... Cappy without trying to betray too many confidences my mother 5ft 1 inch in her high heels with an indominable Scottish talent for words, in any argument with the old man used to say he had a Germanic head, when myself got older in any affray with words she would also say I had a Germanic head. Would you say she was trying to be politically correct or just that we had big heads. She was quite aware of the word Kraut as they had tried to machine gun her during a daylight raid in the London area where a messershmitt had flown over at roof level. There were still bullet holes in the front door area last time I visited. The things we would have liked to have asked our parents now that they are dead are numerous the Germanic Head is one. Cheers John S###ah john youcome to the right man .....as my family tree on paternal side were krauts...i belive it because of the shape of the head ie square......or as my old man called me a effin blockhead .....mind he knew nuffink....herr cappy

Jim Brady
23rd September 2015, 08:55 AM
I don't think Max Bygraves would get away with singing one of his songs from years ago "Why does everybody call me big head".
Regards.
Jim.B.

j.sabourn
23rd September 2015, 08:57 AM
Fanks Bruv yuv clered that up god. Ye didna haf a von in yore name did ee. Saluta. Mein kamf. JS

cappy
23rd September 2015, 09:06 AM
Fanks Bruv yuv clered that up god. Ye didna haf a von in yore name did ee. Saluta. Mein kamf. JS###nien mien liebershin......in brake in germany .....she was a christa hoffman .....oh to be young again went adrift of the avonmoor 4 days .....was she worth it .....not half but as i am 75 she would now be 90......who would have changed that life ......regards of to sunny shields today.......cappy

j.sabourn
23rd September 2015, 09:36 AM
If shes 90 should be well broken in by now, maybe the Germanic head may come into its own at last as a port of refuge. Auf weidersen pet. If still working over there dus yor ostrian paperwork still do. J von S.

John Arton
24th September 2015, 08:26 AM
Cappy must be crying in his beer for his German relatives.
Firstly Angela invites all and sundry to come and live in Germany and surprise, surprise, within a few months Berlin police are raiding those onion shaped places of worship where recruitment for I.S. terrorists is taking place! (from msn news site)
then
The biggest car manufacturer in the world and a backbone of the German economy is found to have software in its diesel engine cars that cheats the result of its annual emission control tests, giving a lower reading than when actually driving normally.
The result of all this is at the last count at least 11 million cars (and counting) are affected with the resultant legal class actions most likely causing the collapse of the Volkswagon group, meaning Germany on top of having to fund all those terrorists, sorry migrants, that MMiss Merkel invited, the German people are most likely having to find billions to prop up Volswagon. The knock on effect of all this will probably see the biggest EU economy go down the tube dragging the rest of Europe with it.
A number of years ago I had a Skoda car (great motor) whose engine was supplied by the Volkswagon group so I am seriously thinking of putting in a claim for compo as its engine most likely had this cheating software fitted to its engine management system.
rgds
JA

cappy
24th September 2015, 08:36 AM
cappy broad shoulders ....having in familytree dutch american german english norske and others unknown.....we cappy,s can take the blame for most of the worlds problems and given the chance could very quickly.......find a final solution ...but instead the dogooders have taken the reins and are driving us to oblivion regards cappy:rolleyes::rolleyes:

john gill
24th September 2015, 08:44 AM
I don't see why everybody in Europe is panicking over immigrants.

The USA is made up of about 99.9 percent immigrants since 1607 and it's caused no problems.

Providing you discount, gun killings, racism, and an attempt to have the world supply of oil, and starting wars but never winning them.

Louis the Amigo
24th September 2015, 09:06 AM
hi shipmates, as posted many moons ago, we have seen nothing so far, a few thousand Syrian are a drop in the ocean, going to the shops this am was my local mosque day not a car parking space for miles , on the pavement blocking roads, drives everywhere Not a parking enforcer to be seen? why is this on a normal day if you stop on a road you would have a ticket!!! but back to topic we will if we dont leave the E.U 200,000+ more refugees in the u.k for a start this is a fact I posted before this will happen soon. dont say i did not tell you.

John Pruden
24th September 2015, 09:33 AM
Louis if we cleared out the people that should not even be here the migrants would not even be noticed here they go into many thousands its our own fault? we catch we bail they vanish simple as that? jp

Keith Tindell
24th September 2015, 10:04 AM
Even illegal migrants must think we are all soft in the head, having been caught working illegally, they are taken in , told to report to the local police station every week, they then leg it to the next place for work, no wonder they come here, impose their laws and religions on us etc, they are in heaven. This stems right back 50 odd years ago when we allowed seiks not to wear safety helmets on motor bikes. When are we going to grow some balls, and impose OUR laws on everyone without favour. The case of the guy who got a stiffer sentence a few weeks ago for sexually assaulting a young asian girl, because it was a bigger crime than had she been a white girl is typical. Must go and get my blood pressure pills KT

john gill
24th September 2015, 10:12 AM
Even illegal migrants must think we are all soft in the head, having been caught working illegally, they are taken in , told to report to the local police station every week, they then leg it to the next place for work, no wonder they come here, impose their laws and religions on us etc, they are in heaven. This stems right back 50 odd years ago when we allowed seiks not to wear safety helmets on motor bikes. When are we going to grow some balls, and impose OUR laws on everyone without favour. The case of the guy who got a stiffer sentence a few weeks ago for sexually assaulting a young asian girl, because it was a bigger crime than had she been a white girl is typical. Must go and get my blood pressure pills KT

Keith, your last sentence would suggest renaming your place of residence, 'Statin Island'.

vic mcclymont
24th September 2015, 10:20 AM
An immigrant begged Police in Manchester to send him back to Iran. He complained that the locals were rude and violent. He thought he was here (UK) illegally. Transpires that he has indefinite permission to be in the UK.
If he wants to go back to Iran. He will have to pay his own way.
Regards
Vic

john gill
24th September 2015, 10:29 AM
#49. Perhaps an unfortunate turn of phrase Louis, referring to a 'drop in the ocean' regarding Syrian migrants. Quite a few DID drop in the ocean on their way into Europe. As to the difficulty parking on 'mosque' days where you live, you should see where I live when Friday Prayers (tomorrow) gets under way; the only parking spaces to be found are outside the local pork butchers shop.

john gill
24th September 2015, 03:09 PM
I had German Head once. From a pretty Fräulein in an alley just off the Reeperbahn.:bigsmile:

cappy
24th September 2015, 04:11 PM
i had german head once. From a pretty fräulein in an alley just off the reeperbahn.:bigsmile:####presumably it was dark up the alley for your little sojurn........are you absolutely sure your fraulien was not a herren.....particulaly if you had been drinking that german beer .....lol cappy

happy daze john in oz
25th September 2015, 06:16 AM
I see at the Hajj today some 717 were killed in the rush to get to the front with some 900 seriously injured. All this in the name of religion, are they fort real as this is not the first time such an event has occurred.

John Pruden
25th September 2015, 08:05 AM
every year this happens why?? jp

john gill
25th September 2015, 08:53 AM
every year this happens why?? jp

Probably natural selection.

John Pruden
25th September 2015, 03:43 PM
I wonder if kong has rushed home to see if he can get a parking speck? jp

Des Taff Jenkins
26th September 2015, 01:11 AM
HI John.
I always remember my mother saying God will punish you if you are naughty, well it looks like Allah is doing the same in Saudi Arabia, I wonder if it is punishment for the bombings in London or Charlie Hebo in Paris and all those beheading's ? I may got to the Haj next year and set up some big microphones and when the M%$#s are all in motion yell out Bomb!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Des

j.sabourn
26th September 2015, 03:56 AM
This weeks International Express a Readers letter from South Africa.
Twenty years ago, a legacy of Apartheid was a lethal electrical fence around the borders of South Africa, to keep people out. Mandela in a blaze on international adulation, switched it off. Humanitarian Mandela! Seven million African refugees flooded into the country, overwhelming social services and infrastructure; building shanty towns around every town and dorp; begging on every road intersection; turning the hospitals into places of horror; working for peanuts and taking jobs from the indigenous population; sending the crime wave sky high; spreading diseases that had not been seen here in a century and triggering successive outbursts of xenophobia. Humanitarian Mandela! Sentimentally virtuous people always produce more evil in this world than acknowledged villains. Where were the UN and EU in this. Nowhere. Why spoil Mandelas magnanimous gesture by cavilling over the details. Now it is Europes turn. please don't ask us to take any, this ANC government is just daft enough to agree. To England, my advice is to flood the Channel Tunnel immediately. Signed############South Africa

There are other similar letters. Whatever is happening in Europe even though the politicians may have their eyes off the big picture, obviously the people are watching........ Don't shoot the messenger JS

happy daze john in oz
26th September 2015, 05:54 AM
attest from Germany, it would appear that about 40% of the people flooding in are not from Syria!!!!! They are from a number of countries and just joining in the throng. Great stuff if you can get away with it.

vic mcclymont
26th September 2015, 12:26 PM
What P's me off is that if I am guest in someone's home, I have to comply with their wishes.
A M'slim comes into a country the country has to comply with their wishes.
An article in the Daily Mail about Germany, girls in a town have been warned to go out at night, nor dress with short skirts or wear plunging neckline blouses, because it is against the m'slim ways.
The camp where they are housed is the biggest brothel, girls and young children regularly raped, if they rapists ever get caught, cut off their manhood, as they do with a thief, return them to where ever they came from.
Regards
Vic

John Arton
27th September 2015, 08:25 AM
Is the m**L*m way of life getting its come uppence?
Hundreds killed during their pilgrimage
huge fire at Britain's largest mo*sq**
Perhaps there is a true god after all
rgds
JA

Keith Tindell
27th September 2015, 10:33 AM
The system thats slowing the migration down, its called the approach of European winter. the pictures emerging from the very cold nights now in central European shows them swathed in blankets, but heart breaking bits are seeing those kids in misery, sleeping in the open. Theres a clip on the BBC site where they are trying to sort out a little girls knees, swollen from walking day after day, it gets to the old heart, kt

j.sabourn
28th September 2015, 03:50 AM
Maybe its coming up to the time re. the ill found boats setting sail, to take one of Nelsons sayings when holding his telescope to his blind eye and saying, I see no ships, or maybe that should have been done from the start. What should have been done from the start was return them from whence they came which in most cases was the shores of Libya instead of picking them up a few miles off the coast and landing them on the continent of Europe. This is not Dunkirk and does not require a Dunkirk response. It is self made problems which again the pollies have taken the wrong corrective measures to alleviate. Once again the only country up to now which has acted correctly and is being abused for it, is Hungary. JS

john walker
28th September 2015, 05:50 AM
Is the m**L*m way of life getting its come uppence?
Hundreds killed during their pilgrimage
huge fire at Britain's largest mo*sq**
Perhaps there is a true god after all
rgds
JA
All this shows that their God works in mysterious ways.

John Arton
28th September 2015, 07:46 AM
Throughout Europe I can find only one politician who speaks the truth and that is the Hungarian president who has told the head of the EU (Junkers?) that he can stuff the EU plans to divvy up all these migrants between all the EU countries where the sun does not shine. He is also warning that by allowing all these migrants into Europe the Christian Europe is in danger of being overrun by a foreign religion.
At last a politician speaking the truth Hurrah.
rgds
JA
p.s. according to some reports at least 30000 Europeans of a certain religion have gone to Syria to join I.S., time to start carpet bombing methinks.

j.sabourn
29th September 2015, 01:18 AM
Watching Putins speech last night at the UN, the first noticeable thing was the not so professional way it was stage managed unlike the ones by western leaders, it did not receive any outstanding acclaimations and one was shown the audiences faces of boredom in lots of cases. He is not the best of communicators and his demeanour is not that of the usual professional actor like most in the west. However a lot of what he said was true whether the UN like it or not, is just too bad, he calls for a total united front which includes Russia, and have Russias input in to the present standing of the present regime in Syria. If the west had gone with Putins instincts in the first place there would be no warring factions in Syria now, and as most of the general public see if Russia says one thing the US will say the opposite and vice versa, this is not a United Nations. Most have been by now over the years been brainwashed about Putins aims on advancement and encroachment on other countries which is no better or worse if the truth was known as any other country when they practice Regime change, which in itself is a demeanour and wrong. The west is now reaping the benefits of its failed Regime Change policy which was illegal in the first place, which has by now acceded its use by date. It must also come hard for the likes of the Russian people who were inundated with western propaganda when the Soviet had troops in Afghanastan and they were broadcasting the act of supplying the rebels killing Russian troops with the arms supplied to the same by the US, even Bin Lid was hailed as a hero by western television until he was accused and killed by same US for his misdemeanours, also in Iraq the deposed leader later executed was also a so called ally of the US in its fight against Iran. The US has a habit of choosing the wrong friends it seems. The debacle of Vietnam was just one of many instances. If the likes of China and Russia were not vetoing votes in the UN God only knows what other disasters would have occurred. Whatever to what stage of brainwashing or other political beliefs people have, the likes of China and Russia are very necessary in the make up of the UN. JS

j.sabourn
29th September 2015, 03:24 AM
In addittion to the above if the US and the likes of other countries try and coerce the UK to stay in Europe, then more than likely Europe will eventually have one seat on the security council. Hands up those who want to see Germany or France speaking for you. JS

Des Taff Jenkins
30th September 2015, 01:30 AM
Hi All.
What a bummer, Obama outmaneuvered by Putin over Syria so much so that he had a massive sulk and wouldn't touch glasses with him in a toast, unable to contain his furious expression he chose to ignore the leader of a country as big as Russia, no wonder the Yanks have never been able to conduct diplomatic foreign policy like the British. The Yanks made a grave mistake in backing, training, and arming the rebels against Assad, it came back as it has on many other occasions to bite them on the bum. Even blind Freddy can see that a combined force of Russian and Western forces would clean up Isis in a matter of weeks. That is if they aren't already all in Europe.
cheers des

j.sabourn
30th September 2015, 05:25 AM
Des watched again last night news re UN showed the pres. of the Ukraine again shouting the odds which I suppose by mosts standards he has every right. However all these arguments over Ukraine the whole initial point was when the official president who happened to be pro-Russian was turfed out by the mobs in an un- constituitional manner, they then cry shame when the russians re take the crimea which houses all their Baltic fleet plus. As have often said the people only see the side of arguments their governments want them to see, when talking about bias and misinformation the west with its so called free press takes some beating, to most of us anyone can see that the world will gain by the influx of the might of Russia and China, I hope this evenings news does a coverage of the Russian answers to some of what the problems are, as quite a few countries are going to attend, doubt the US or The biggies in Europe will however. By biggies I mean Germany France and Italy, who are out of interest the last 3 big axis powers during the last world conflict. After the war they always talked about France as a beaten country, I would like to know the numbers of Vichy french there were in actual fact. Cheers JS

happy daze john in oz
30th September 2015, 05:58 AM
They problem with USA is they still think they arte the biggest and best. Russia has the means to defeat any enemy if it wishes, but that will not do for Obama and others.The cold war between USA and Russia has been continueous for generation, mainly on the part of USA. They have this concept that they are the top dos in every thing, where as countries like UK and others are willing to talk.

Captain Kong
30th September 2015, 07:47 AM
America is the most warmongering country on the Planet. Ever since WW2 it has caused wars all over the world and Never won one of them
It failed in Korea, it failed in Viet Nam, it failed in Iraq, it failed in Afghanistan.
it cocked up Libya and it has cocked up Syria by backing the wrong side again and arming and training ISIS
America should stay in its own back yard and stop interfering in other countries.
It ponces around the world trying to change other countries governments.
It cannot understand, in a Moo, slim, country you cannot have Democracy,. Only a strong Dictator can hold the various tribes together.
Saddam held Iraq together, Gadhafi held the 15 tribes of Libya together, Assad held all the tribes and different religions together, every one is now a total disaster because they are interfering. Millions have died because of their actions and their ignorant Pres ignores a man, Putin , who is trying to stop IS.
I despair at the Ignorance of their politicians on the world stage.
Brian

j.sabourn
30th September 2015, 08:23 AM
#75... They won in Grenada Brian, just about anyway. They invaded Cuba when I believe was it when Rooseveldt was a young man, one doesn't hear much about the results of that one, as again lost in the Bay of Pigs fiasco which they disclaimed all knowledge of. Even lost at the Alamo although Hollywood won in the film, all a matter of your viewpoint I suppose. Won in Burma athough cant recollect any US troops really being involved. The argument there are no winners in war fits their excuse to a T. Cheers JS

john sutton
30th September 2015, 03:20 PM
HUMMMMMMMM


MAYBE WE COULD FIND SOMEONE OF THIS CALIBER FOR PM


NAH, NUN HAVE THE HUEVOS, OR IS THE WORD PELOTAS











I wonder how many years (hundreds for sure) that Jewish people have lived in Quebec. I don't believe that they have ever demanded that pork be removed from the school's menu where their children attend.
Excellent reply by the Mayor of Quebec to the "demands" of the ****** population in his community.











Put some pork on your fork.
Too bad the UK doesn’t have the common sense to publish this nationwide.
Should also be posted on signs all along Its borders.

Let's hear it for a Quebec mayor.
Or as the commercial promoting pork says “put some pork on your fork”
MAYOR REFUSES TO REMOVE PORK FROM SCHOOL CANTEEN MENU.











EXPLAINS WHY
****** parents demanded the abolition of pork in all the school canteens of a Montreal suburb.
The mayor of the Montreal suburb of Dorval, has refused, and the town clerk sent a note to all parents to explain why...











“******s must understand that they have to adapt to Canada and Quebec, its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that's where they chose to immigrate.











“They must understand that they have to integrate and learn to live in Quebec.











“They must understand that it is for them to change their lifestyle, not the Canadians who so generously welcomed them.











“They must understand that Canadians are neither racist nor xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before ******s (whereas the reverse is not true, in that ****** states do not accept non-****** immigrants).











“That no more than other nations, Canadians are not willing to give up their identity, their culture.











“And if Canada is a land of welcome, it's not the Mayor of Dorval who welcomes foreigners, but the Canadian-Quebecois people as a whole.











“Finally, they must understand that in Canada (Quebec) with its Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious festivals, religion must remain in the private domain.











The municipality of Dorval was right to refuse any concessions to ***** and Sharia.











“For ******s who disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable in Canada, there are 57 beautiful ****** countries in the world, most of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms in accordance with Shariah.











“If you left your country for Canada, and not for other ****** countries, it is because you have considered that life is better in Canada than elsewhere.











“Ask yourself the question, just once, “Why is it better here in Canada than where you come from?” “A canteen with pork is part of the answer.”

If you feel the same forward it on, if not, hit the delete.

John Arton
30th September 2015, 03:34 PM
Brilliant post John.
I propose that guy for the next head of the United Nations.
I have a cousin living in that part of Montreal and visited him back in 88 when the ship I was mate on was running into Montreal. Very nice area to live in then (though could not see to much as it was winter and covered in snow) but his neighbours were very nice and despite being French Canadian were very pleasant towards me, a non French speaking Brit. My cousins wife is from Czechoslovakia and has been made most welcome there.
If they have an influx of mozzies over the years I hope it has not gone downhill with their arrival.
rgds
JA

Captain Kong
30th September 2015, 04:08 PM
It has certainly gone downhill here in Boltonistan,
A once good town of good hardworking friendly people, now I live in a foreign state.
with a Labour, moo,slim, MP and Labour moo, slim, town councillors, and neighbours who enjoy telling me, this is Our Country now.
I am a minority. I have no democracy, no representatives in government, Will the Americans bomb and invade us to give us democracy??
I hope so,
Es Salaam u alakum. eid Mubarak.
Brian

Roger Dyer
30th September 2015, 04:11 PM
While the political 'gurus' of this site are busily engaged tipping the bucket on Uncle Sam, I have a question for the rest of the members. In view of this most recent display of peace-loving altruism (in Syria) by the nice Mr.Putin, do the members believe him deserving of (a)...the Nobel Peace Prize. or (b) Papal approval and subsequent beatification? Personally, I prefer option (b)...just imagine, St.Vladimir the Pacifist, so delightfully appropriate. :rolleyes: As a matter of interest, his great aunt, Evdokia, once played second fiddle in the Halle Orchestra.:)

Roger

john sutton
30th September 2015, 04:22 PM
I hate to say it but he,s the only world leader that's got it right.
If the other countries had listened to him and left Asad alone there would be no ISIL now.I know he was a tyrant but he controlled Syria and with help would have sorted ISIL.His atrocities were nothing compared with what is now going on with the monsters who are overrunning his country.

vic mcclymont
30th September 2015, 08:39 PM
There is a lot of anti US rhetoric on this site, the US seems to get the blame for everything that is wrong.
Russia and China are equally as bad, they always take the stance opposite the rest of the world.
The west wants Assad removed Russia doesn't, if the people of Syria want Assad gone, that's up to them, not us.
Assad controls his country, allows free worship, something that other Arab states do not allow.
It seems a minority oppose Assad in Syria, could be a different branch of ***** to that of Assad?
Regards
Vic

j.sabourn
1st October 2015, 12:57 AM
The west is trying to nit pick when they only want such groups of rebels as they consider dangerous attacked. Anyone bearing arms apart from the supposedly official army of the country should be considered illegal, the rest of whatever disposition backed by whoever should get one warning if they refuse to put their arms down they will be considered a legitimate target. This is what has kept this war going, the US have armed certain groups who they consider will take out the present government and it hasn't worked. The real answer is forget all those groups that have been armed by the west and take out all belligerents. This is what the US fears that all their trouble in arming certain factions that the Russians are going to take out as well. This at the moment is the only way forward to stop hostilitys in the country unless one wants this war to drag out for ever. Clear the lot out (rebels) then start from a clean slate once again. The waters have been muddied again by outside influences. The present scenario if played out in full with all nations taking a hand in expunging all rebel factions, will finally resolve in public executions of those rebels by the old guard this will be in retaliation to all those Syrian soldiers being executed in a like manner. It would be advisable if this event occurs for the goody goody brigade to keep their own council and cease forthwith in matters outside their own country of origin. Silence is golden, which despite the millions killed they have failed to mind their own business, and recognize they have the same rights as the residents in the country which they are not serving by their interference. The present troubles and the outside assistance being given should be considered at present, trying to clear up the mess that was made on the invasion of certain countries, and in future look before one leaps. JS

happy daze john in oz
1st October 2015, 05:56 AM
Russia backs Assad and today launched an air attack on those they say are ISIS rebels. USA claims they attacked west supporting freedom fighters. One side is telling porkies, but both sides supply arms to both armies. This is not so much a war against |ISIs but a battle between two major nations using the situation to justify their approach to it.

John Arton
1st October 2015, 08:17 AM
Panorama on BBC1 last night followed the progress of these migrants as they crossed Europe on their way to Germany from Greece through Macedonia then Serbia, Hungary and finally into Austria and Hungary. There were some quite harrowing scenes of young children and old people walking for miles, being put into camps etc and being issued with bar codes at every border crossing.
The reporter commented upon the fact that the majority appeared to be young men of fighting age and raised the possibility that they could be terrorists in the making. He also found many of them were not Syrians (as if we did not know that). Amongst them he found a Syrian male who had not lived in Syria for 13 years but instead had been living and presumably working, in Dubai for all that time. Yet suddenly he decides to up sticks make his way to Turkey and join the masses heading for Europe. Another guy they followed at various points in the journey he was found to be carrying a child he claimed to be his or a relative, at other times he was found to be wheeling a disabled person in a wheelchair claiming she was a relative.
What the program did show was the chaos and complete breakdown of any system that could weed out true refugees from economic migrants or any possible terrorists.
rgds
JA

cappy
1st October 2015, 08:27 AM
i think cameron got it right after seeing all the young men of fighting age on the march last night .....we can pick from the camps...the families who still wish to live in syria ...and are not desperate to come north....cappy

j.sabourn
1st October 2015, 08:34 AM
In all these countries in turmoil one can see the amount of people carrying weaponry openly. Imagine the streets of Europe being the same. There seems to be no capacity or laws to stop such and probably never has been, this shows how far back in the realms of time their history goes, the right to carry arms is not in their constitution as far as I know, simply because most don't have one. They have always as some say rightly had a strong man at the head, remove him and one is left with anarchy. Being replaced by one suitable to other countries is certainly not the answer, they all shout democracy and most dont even know what the word means, apart from free handouts. JS

Captain Kong
1st October 2015, 10:14 AM
I too saw the show last night.
many also said they want to go to London. The one that John mentioned, started off with his sister, who later was not his sister, he said he panicked in the boat and threw the bag containing their passports in the sea, but didn't know why he did it, so his sister became not his sister because he had her money. then he is seen with a young girl, then he disappears and then appears later with a lady in a wheelchair. he admitted that by using these people he could get through the checks and onto the buses. A real con man.
He also said there were IS terrorists in the crowd.
Since January I have been writing to Cameron telling him that ISIS had announced they already had 3,000 operatives based in Europe and UK awaiting the call for Jihad. But Pollies think they know it all.
Brian
PS , I have been told that Cyprus has only allowed 400 Christian refugees in, no mozzies.

j.sabourn
1st October 2015, 10:15 AM
#82.. Not anti from me Vic. just know as everyone else the US has taken some bad decisions. This is not all up to the President although he carries the can exactly the same as a master of a ship. He listens to advisors who apparently are not of the best, I doubt any of the big brass fought in the last war and of the Vietnam war the infantry took the brunt of the casualitys. Nowadays they sit behind computers and send drones in, and they are half a world away. I said when ISIS first started it is going to need ground troops in to get them out. This is what it is going to take, and yet their own countrymen are scared of them, for as a foe they are a formiddable enemy. They are a replica of the japanese Hari Kari warriors of the closing stages of the last war. One can give out the propoganda that they are screaming lunatics, medicated up to the hilt with drugs, dying a slow death by a painful cancer, but whatever excuse you make for the suicide bomber he is a totally committed warrior, even without the 40 virgins he would probably do. If they were employed in a regular and reconized army most of them both alive and dead would be down by the head with medals of the highest order, the worst thing that anyone can do is under estimate their capabilities. There is one thing that the west should of done years ago when to most it was obvious of the migration of the religion, they should have first made Sharia law illegal in their country of residence. This freedom of religion tripe that goes with outdated laws should be written out. This is the final objective of these minded people they want to practice the same and impose the same on whatever country they reside in. The only thing that has kept the mullahs in check in the past has been stronger dictators, and which were taken out by misguided people, and even now they refuse to accept the error of their ways. I dont expect the President of the USA a retired College professor to understand other countries habits, but do expect his advisors to have a bit of common sense. Cheers JS

j.sabourn
2nd October 2015, 04:00 AM
As said in Post #83... The Russians must be reading these posts as well. The only thing different is they didn't give the recipients of their firepower a warning to lay down their weapons, or maybe they did and such information is not for the likes of anyone else. The only way I would also see is to disarm all parties apart from the national army of Syria, any other method will drag this war on with further tens of thousands of civilians alongside the combatants dieing. I also see in the International Express that there is a call in the UK to bring back the borders in Europe, is this correct. ?? If so people on this site and elsewhere have been calling for this for years. There is one sure thing a large percentage of our politicians are slow learners. They should get some of the old age pensioners in at their cabinet meetings, to give them a kick up the ass when needed. JS

John Pruden
2nd October 2015, 06:16 AM
john I think the penny is finaly dropping the cancer that is isil must be stopped by all countries and not allowed to spread over the planet no good china Korea and others that stand by and say it will not happen here must be crazy the united nations should make all members not just a few step up to the plate while meeting are going on isil are spreading and bringing more religious nut jobs on board? regarding Russia and Syria sort the real terrorists out first{isil} its not going to be a case of not in our back yard its here now in the front garden we are letting the terrorists in here today every day. we are told by all the human tree huggers that many live in suburbia let us take more in I am sure if their leafy suburbs were over run by tent cities the cops would soon move them on so their green field spaces were not disturbed and their horses can run in their paddocks free? jp

Roger Dyer
2nd October 2015, 08:04 AM
Following M.Putin's most recent contribution to world peace (i.e. the indiscriminate bombing on behalf of his new 'best friend', President Bashar Assad), it was with bated breath I awaited the daily communique from our political correspondent hoping that, for once, we might be treated to an unbiased critique,....once again my hopes were dashed.

Meanwhile, to his credit, Vladimir has refrained from using the nail-bomb, a tactic so beloved by his host, the kindly Assad.
Still, if one has the power to kill with state-of-the art weaponry why bother with primitive devices, eh! While Assad orchestrated the slaughter of more than 250,000 of his own people, it was found that nail-bombs proved most effective when dropped on civilian bread-lines. One might wonder why Putin would choose to give unqualified support to such a man, unless it was in the best interest of Mother Russia. Nah! that wouldn't be right though would it?...only America does that sort of thing.

Roger

David Williams
3rd October 2015, 02:08 PM
Hi Brian.
They will not have to fight for their religon they breed so fast that there will be enough
of them in the country by 2050,to take over the country by democratic means,by forming
their own political party and voting themselves into power.I do not worry about myself,
but I do worry for me grand and great grandchildren,

David Williams

j.sabourn
6th November 2015, 10:22 AM
As copy of a Columnists report in #130 in post Migration and the Bishop. Any follower of isban the meaning of the word is submission, they also apart from their culture which some swoon over, bring their own legal, political and military ideologys with them. You already have areas in UK and Europe already controlling their own patches, any increases in numbers will just increase and magnify the size of these areas. You are already on a descending path to losing control of your own ideologys. The politicians who have seen what is going to happen have been shouted down in the past by idiots who have only seen advancement for themselves in a personal rise to power. It is not a religion as one considers a religion it is a ruling way of life, soon what you are going to wake up to every day. Their parliament is the mosque, it is not just the what we call terrorist groups, every isbanic reads the same rules from the same book. JS

happy daze john in oz
7th November 2015, 05:44 AM
In the news today the German economy is slowing, growth is not what it was. How now will they cope with all the refugees Merkel is so willing to take in?

Fouro
9th November 2015, 11:05 PM
Some say people mellow with age, I'm afraid it does the opposite for me as I get angrier and angrier reading about different creeds taking over this once great country of ours. Enoch Powell warned our nation that other religions especially malsi shouldn't be allowed in. Another big stupidity was allowing a foreign culture, The Vote. In those days Irish folk weren't allowed to vote in our elections and they were Christians the same as most of us. Because of that stupidity smilsum can now take over Our Country via the ballot box. The reason most indiginous can't see this is becauise they are glued to TV Soaps and Footy 24/7, with foreign loving daily Rags filling in the gaps between.

FOURO.

Des Taff Jenkins
10th November 2015, 12:37 AM
Following M.Putin's most recent contribution to world peace (i.e. the indiscriminate bombing on behalf of his new 'best friend', President Bashar Assad), it was with bated breath I awaited the daily communique from our political correspondent hoping that, for once, we might be treated to an unbiased critique,....once again my hopes were dashed.

Meanwhile, to his credit, Vladimir has refrained from using the nail-bomb, a tactic so beloved by his host, the kindly Assad.
Still, if one has the power to kill with state-of-the art weaponry why bother with primitive devices, eh! While Assad orchestrated the slaughter of more than 250,000 of his own people, it was found that nail-bombs proved most effective when dropped on civilian bread-lines. One might wonder why Putin would choose to give unqualified support to such a man, unless it was in the best interest of Mother Russia. Nah! that wouldn't be right though would it?...only America does that sort of thing.

Roger
Hi Roger.
Well the Americans did start all this mayhem or is that forgotten history. It has been proved in the last few years getting rid of so called Tyrants who didn't toe the money line has made for the worst bloodshed since the second world war. I don't believe bombing will solve anything.
Cheers Des

happy daze john in oz
10th November 2015, 04:56 AM
It now appears that the influx of persons of a certain culture and religion are only interested in some countries. Most of EU, Oz. NZ and some to Canada. Have they chosen these countries because of ease of access, or is it that by entering them they will in time take over by sheer weight of numbers. Then from there launch an attack on other western nations? No evidence to date of attempting to gain access to China, Japan India and a few others. Could it be they view such nations as too hard to crack? In all of this Russia is the odd one out, supplying weapons whilst claiming they are hard done by when it comes to the west. I doubt in our life time we will see much of it but by 2100 it could well be on for young and old.

Keith Tindell
10th November 2015, 10:04 AM
Just wait until this lot flooding into Europe dont get the house, car, and job they all believe should be theirs, it will then kick off big time, kt

cappy
10th November 2015, 10:21 AM
just wondered keith are you getting any on the isle of wight yet .......the local vicar came on sunday and asked me if i would have a syrian for xmas ...i said feck that im having a turkey like every body else.......cappy

Keith Tindell
10th November 2015, 10:31 AM
I can honestly say Cappy , i have not seen one mobile black postbox here on the island , yet!!!!! KT

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10th November 2015, 05:06 PM
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vic mcclymont
10th November 2015, 08:15 PM
There was an article in the MOS on Sunday about the Catholic Church.
Last year the UK Government decreed that at least two religions should be studied in school, the idea behind was to stamp out extremism.
The Catholic Church has now decreed that it will not teach ***** in its schools, but will teach Judaism instead.
The ****** Council of Great Britain have rounded on the Catholic Church stating that it is a betrayal that ***** is not taught in their schools.
How many ***** schools teach Christianity?
Regards
Vic

happy daze john in oz
11th November 2015, 05:35 AM
just wondered keith are you getting any on the isle of wight yet .......the local vicar came on sunday and asked me if i would have a syrian for xmas ...i said feck that im having a turkey like every body else.......cappy

Cappy, I am sure young Mary will oblige, if they upset her she can always revert to the wooden leg up the rear end.

Ivan Cloherty
11th November 2015, 11:09 PM
Any of you heard of Valerie Jarrett? well she is apparently Obama's top advisor, of Iranian birth and a ****** (moo slim), and she stated in 1977 that her faith guides her and by using the freedom of religion of America against itself she seeks to change America to a more Islamic country.

Is this why Obama has never used the words '****** (moo slim)terrorists', in case he upsets his top advisor.

The change (apparently) is in full swing and like us they are sleep walking into it

Perhaps Rodney can let us know if their is any veracity in the above. No doubt the words ****** (moo slim) and islamic will be replaced by ******** etc, although the words are in the dictionary and used worldwide in newspapers, but I'm sure you'll get the gist of it

happy daze john in oz
12th November 2015, 02:05 AM
I have for some time had my doubts about Obama, just what is he? He talks the talk but to date has in my opinion failed to walk the walk. His tolerance of the funny letterbox brigade is far too strong and all the talk of removing ISIS appears to me to be nothing more than talk. Time will tell and it will be of great interest to see how the new president in 2017 handles it.

Captain Kong
12th November 2015, 08:57 AM
I cannot understand the mentality of the Democratic voter in the US electing a Pres like that.Twice.
I know our Pollies are totally stupid but.............
Brian

Dennis McGuckin
12th November 2015, 05:22 PM
Canada is accepting 25,000 refugees before the end of the year.Here in British Columbia we are preparing unused buildings, like schools and warehouses, into accommodations for them.
Meanwhile we have hundreds of our own homeless people that we have been unable to find housing for over the years.
What ever happened to charity begins at home?
Lets put our own house in order first.
Oh yes. None of the refugees will be going into the high end west Vancouver millionaire district.
Funny how that works.

Keith Tindell
12th November 2015, 07:10 PM
On the news tonight, reporter interviewing a guy just off an inflatable in Kos, he spoke perfect English, said he had worked in England for 6 years, the reporter asked why he went back to Afghanistan, his reply was you in England deported me!!!!. so hes back in Europe, and will probably end up here again legally. What a bloody shambles, kt

Jim Brady
12th November 2015, 07:23 PM
Just watched the people on the move a guy being interviewed said they had to leave Afghanistan because they were in a mixed marriage which is against the law.He said she is Shia and I'm Sunni,so that makes them Sunni and Shia,I got you Babe.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Ivan Cloherty
12th November 2015, 07:57 PM
What I can't stand is the 'Bleeding heart' reporters, haven't heard one of them say 'Come live with me' but we are supposed to welcome them with open arms. Why are they leaving Turkey a moo slim country to come to Christian Greece and then risking their childrens lives in boats going from one Greek Island to another Greek island in winter seas, could it because they think that they are going to get free housing, Tv's, cars as well as benefits when they reach the promised lands of do gooders, but of course they will won't they, otherwise we'll all be called racialists.

Jim Brady
12th November 2015, 08:04 PM
I see quite a number of country's are having second thoughts about their open door policy,Sweden has had enough and I think Mrs Merkel is now sorry for what she started.
Regards.
Jim.B.

Captain Kong
12th November 2015, 08:34 PM
Don't forget Gadhafi`s immortal words before they killed him. He was the only politician to tell the Truth

"I sla m does not need to fight the West, We will take over with weight of numbers."

It has come true.
and all our politicians, Bishops, and daft do gooders are still too stupid to realise what is going on.
We are being colonised by slam.
Welcome to WW3
Brian

Rodney Mills
12th November 2015, 08:43 PM
Ivan,

I honestly had never heard of Valerie Jarret.. I asked my wife if she had, she said yes, but she had never heard about her being "@#slim (God! this writing in code is so childish!).

I googled Valerie Jarret and found at least twenty sites spouting all sorts of nonsense about her. She was @#slim, she was a communist, she was Iranian...Whoa! there is no way a @#slim ,Iranian, communist is part of Mr.Obama's inner group or any American presidential group, she couldn't even be an advisor to Hassan Rouhani, President of Iran, as communism is not allowed and anathema to Shitte @#slims, and somehow I haven't heard a word about her in Mr. Obama's seven years in office. Nothing on TV news, ABC, Fox, NBC, NPR radio news, BBCnews, The Australian, The Wall street Journal, The Economist, Time magazine, The Washington Post? Impossible!

I pulled up a site that matched the quotation attributed to her, the main gist of it I have reposted following my comments.

I mentioned previously in a post to John in Oz about the U.S. political parties and how they stack-up Vis a Vis Oz and the UK. Obviously you must have missed it so I will repeat them briefly. The U.S. Democratic Party compares roughly to your Conservative Party. The Republican Party are further to the right. There are factional niches in both parties, further to the left in the case of the democrats, but nowhere even close to Mr. Corbyn of the British Labor Party and his philosophy.

There are various elements of the Republicans that move to the right of the parties main stream, the Tea Party wing is an example; however, there are groups that are ultra conservative to the extreme. The nonsense following is typical fringe, kook, and radical tripe one would expect from them. Ivan, let's reverse the program, If I asked you is it true that Mr. Cameron has a card carrying member of the Nazi party advising him on running the country, and found sites that stated so, and that he had been doing that for seven years yet the Dail Mail, Guardian, BBC, etc. had never raised a stink or even mentioned it. What would you think?



Anyway following is the typical ultra right wing b.s. that has used the quote you mentioned, and following on is a reply from "Snopes." laying out Valerie Jarrett's bio.



Claim: White House adviser Valerie Jarrett once said she seeks "to help change America to be a more Islamic country



Quoted from Valerie Jarrett:

"I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American Citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself."


Valerie Jarrett, Stanford University 1977

Origins: Valerie Jarrett was offered a role as a White House Senior Advisor at the very beginning of the Obama administration in January 2009 and now holds the position of Senior Advisor to the President of the United States. President Obama has said he consults Jarrett on every major decision.

The level of influence Jarrett holds with the Obama administration has prompted many detractors to complain she wields too much control over the President and decisions about who should have access to him, and one expression that detraction commonly takes is the assertion Jarrett is a foreign-born Islamic "mole" who is pushing for (or furthering) a ****** agenda through the executive branch. The quote cited above is a typical example, holding that while Jarrett was an undergraduate psychology student at
Stanford University in 1977, she proclaimed herself to be an Iranian who sought "to help change America to be a more Islamic country" and she felt "like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself."



Ivan for the complete text you can click on the link below.




FALSE: Valerie Jarrett: 'Help change America to be a more Islamic country' : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/jarrettislam.asp)

"...Contrary to common rumor, however, neither Jarrett nor her parents are Iranian, nor (as far as we can tell) are any of them ******. Jarrett's parents, James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman, were both American-born U.S. citizens from Washington, D.C. and Chicago, respectively; the couple merely lived in Iran for about six years in the late 1950s and early 1960s while James served as chair of pathology at Nemazee Hospital in Shiraz as part of a program that sent American physicians to work in developing countries.

Valerie was born in Shiraz during the Bowmans' sojourn in Iran; she returned to the U.S. with her parents in 1962 (when she was five years old), whereupon she attended prep school in Massachusetts, graduated with a B.A. in psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and earned a J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981 before returning to Chicago to begin her working career. We've found no evidence Valerie Jarrett is (or ever was) ******, her only apparent connection to that religion being the

incidental one that she temporarily lived in a predominantly ****** country with her American parents for the first few years of her life.

The quote to attributed "Valerie Jarrett, Stanford University, 1977" about her "seek[ing] to help change America to be a more Islamic country" is an unfounded one that has no source other than recent repetition (primarily on right-wing web sites and blogs) and that in its commonly reproduced form is too stilted to be believable as the utterance of a fluent English speaker (e.g., "I am an Iranian by birth and of [sic] my Islamic faith"). No news article or document associated with Stanford University records Jarrett as having made this statement back in 1977; and if there were any credible evidence Jarrett had ever said anything remotely like this, it would have been a well-covered news story since shortly after the 2008 presidential election and not a obscure meme that didn't pop up until several years later."



I trust this answers your query fully Ivan.



Regards, Rodney

John Pruden
12th November 2015, 08:44 PM
nato could have and should have done a hell of a lot more in the middle east? sort the problem on the home turf not sit back until its to late people don't want or needed to migrate professional people uprooting and walking hundreds of mile for safety in other lands ok they land on doorsteps often not welcome but that's the price of not stepping in before it got a grip isil will have to be taken out by any means possible and the people re homed on their own lands as regards taking over lands they have moved to there is always deportation and I am sure they don't want that? just my view.. jp

Captain Kong
12th November 2015, 09:20 PM
I have just received this from a mate in Australia...............................
What is really going on.
Brian
.
.

The Middle East power play

The Middle Eastern conflict has grown around Syria for some time now. I’ve following the course of events since September 2014.

This whole mess boils down to politics, power and money.

To kick things off, it’s helpful to know about the main players.

The governments of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are controlled by Shi’ite ******s. While the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan are ruled by Sunni ******s.

When it comes to controlling energy, these groups have historically backed their own circle. That’s important when you analyse the world’s largest natural gas and condensate field — South Pars and North Dome. It’s shared by both Iran (Shi’ite ruled) and Qatar (Sunni ruled).

Both the Shi’ites and the Sunnis want to build their own gas pipeline networks. You can see this on the map below...


Source: passionforliberty.com

The Shi’ites want to use the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon-Europe route (Islamic pipeline in red).

The Sunnis want the Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Iraq-Syria-Turkey-Europe route (Qatar-Turkey pipeline in purple).

Here’s the catch...

Both groups need to build their pipeline through Syria.

You can see why Syria represents huge strategic value.

If either the Sunni or Shi’ite groups are going to get their gas piped to Europe, they have to go through Syria.

This is where it gets interesting. A lot of powerful outside parties also have chips on the table.

Russia and China (although China remains undeclared) are on the Shi’ites’ side (supporting Assad’s Syria). They’ve voted together on every issue regarding Syria at the United Nations. On the other hand, the US has its chips on the Sunnis’ side (with their old friends Saudi Arabia).

Geopolitical games 101

For many years, the US was an ‘oil importer’ and heavily relied on cheap Middle Eastern oil.

Now, having become an ‘oil producer’, the US geopolitical goal is to isolate Russia — it’s the only country (bar China) that really stands up to US international meddling.

The US isn’t used to being told what to do. It can’t handle the fact that it’s a declining empire — economically, geopolitically, financially, and socially.

As such, you can expect the US to keep doing whatever it takes to exert its authority over Russia.

This means, hitting Russia where it hurts — cutting off its oil and gas money.

Russia is the biggest supplier of natural gas to Western Europe. This grants the county a lot of power. If necessary, it can turn off the gas or raise prices, as it has done during northern winter months in years past.

The US doesn’t like this power play, and to neutralise Russia’s influence over Europe, the US has backed the Qatar-Turkey pipeline (Saudi Arabia).

Russia clearly has an interest to make sure this doesn’t happen. What’s more, it holds long term exploration and development rights to a large part of Syria’s offshore waters.

If Russia can find gas and oil in the region AND have influence over a pipeline to Europe, it can gain more control over all the gas that flows into Europe.

There is a lot at stake here — wealth, prestige and power — for a lot of historically stubborn and confrontational nations.

Geopolitical tensions are heating up.

And all the dangerous ingredients for a Middle Eastern proxy-war are in place.

This is coming whether you like it or not

With Russia and China watching from behind the scenes, Barrack Obama has had no choice but to enforce his ‘no boots on the ground’ policy.

Over the past couple of years, the US spent nearly US$500 million training Syrian rebels to fight IS.

The US realised that this plan had failed long ago. This is why US forces conducted more than 7,000 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria over the last 12 months.

But this plan has also been a complete failure. And Russia and China kept watching on the sidelines.

Out of ideas, Obama and his mates recently pushed the Russians too far. CNBC reported that the Pentagon put ‘boots on the ground’ in Syria, assisting the Kurds on 16 September. The nature of the special operations was not disclosed.

Russia then started bombing the Islamic State on 30 September.

It took them 72 hours to do what US forces couldn’t — destroy significant Islamic State territory and personnel.

Supported by Russian airpower, Iran has now sent thousands of troops into Syria and Iraq to assist with its army’s offensive on IS. The coalition has even taken back important oil refineries captured by IS in September last year.

Meanwhile, the US military strategy appears paralysed.

The oil stock to watch

It’s likely that the entire campaign will shift to Iraq, where the Iranian military just recaptured prized oil fields.

According to the Financial Times, estimates by local traders and engineers put crude production in IS held territory at about 34,000-40,000 barrels per day.

The oil is sold for between US$20 and US$45 a barrel, earning the militants an average of US$1.5 million a day.

While, according to CNBC, the US Rewards for Justice program has ‘offered anyone US$5 million for tips on disrupting IS oil’.

But that’s hardly a long term solution. Iraq is eventually where the US will either need to confront Russia for control over the region, or simply pack up and leave.

It’s unlikely that the US will leave quietly. Especially with US relations with Russia at lows not seen since the Cold War.

That said, we should see Syria pushed into the background for a little while.

The geopolitical story is now moving to the South China Sea, where the US is deploying a number of its war ships in defiance to Chinese authorities.

If you keep following this geopolitical story, you’ll see the switches between Ukraine, the South China Sea and Syria — the three hot-spots that could erupt into a full scale war.

The world is watching who will make the first move. It will take some time before we see a full on confrontation.

Yet at the moment, the stage is being set for the next World War.

While I don’t want this anymore than you do, legendary commodities investor Jim Rogers’s puts it this way:


‘Wars start when bureaucrats make mistakes and then other bureaucrats react to those mistakes and then next thing you know, you have eight or ten bureaucrats sending 18 year old kids to kill each other, and it’s very worrisome what’s happening.’

A mistake is a real possibility. If this happens, Jim explains:


‘Having said that, war is not good for anything, anything at all, except commodities. I’m not going to say buy commodities because you don’t want to start a war, but if there’s going to be a war, it usually means commodity prices go higher.’

Indeed, it takes one mistake to send commodity prices higher.

And I’ve been watching this unfold with growing concern for some time now.

On 3 December 2014, when crude was trading at US$63 per barrel, I wrote to readers of my research letter Resource Speculator:


‘Crude oil prices won’t stay low forever. In fact, expect to see crude oil prices rocket into 2016/17.

‘As economies keep falling apart, geopolitical risk will pick up into 2016/17. You’ll see conflict and social unrest rise around the world at an alarming rate.’

But before the oil price takes off, crude is likely to fall further — hitting my forecast of US$34 per barrel by early 2016.

This should keep the oilers share prices somewhat contained.

In this case, I see no rush to buy any established oilers today — even if they look great on paper. If you buy today, you won’t be buying at the best price.

As such, I’d like to provide you with a recommendation for a top-rated oiler that you should put on your watch-list.

It’s a company you can expect to make big gains on soon...but not quite yet.

This is the best strategy to take, heading into the final stretch of the resources bear market.

You can get my full analysis on this Australian oil stock by checking out this recent issue of my investment newsletter Resource Speculator.

It’s a no-obligation deal, so you have nothing to lose by taking a look.

Simply click here to access this full issue of Resource Speculator

Sincerely,

- - - Updated - - -

I have just received this from a mate in Australia,
makes you wonder what is really going on.
Brian.....................................
.
.

The Middle East power play

The Middle Eastern conflict has grown around Syria for some time now. I’ve following the course of events since September 2014.

This whole mess boils down to politics, power and money.

To kick things off, it’s helpful to know about the main players.

The governments of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are controlled by Shi’ite ******s. While the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan are ruled by Sunni ******s.

When it comes to controlling energy, these groups have historically backed their own circle. That’s important when you analyse the world’s largest natural gas and condensate field — South Pars and North Dome. It’s shared by both Iran (Shi’ite ruled) and Qatar (Sunni ruled).

Both the Shi’ites and the Sunnis want to build their own gas pipeline networks. You can see this on the map below...


Source: passionforliberty.com

The Shi’ites want to use the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon-Europe route (Islamic pipeline in red).

The Sunnis want the Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Iraq-Syria-Turkey-Europe route (Qatar-Turkey pipeline in purple).

Here’s the catch...

Both groups need to build their pipeline through Syria.

You can see why Syria represents huge strategic value.

If either the Sunni or Shi’ite groups are going to get their gas piped to Europe, they have to go through Syria.

This is where it gets interesting. A lot of powerful outside parties also have chips on the table.

Russia and China (although China remains undeclared) are on the Shi’ites’ side (supporting Assad’s Syria). They’ve voted together on every issue regarding Syria at the United Nations. On the other hand, the US has its chips on the Sunnis’ side (with their old friends Saudi Arabia).

Geopolitical games 101

For many years, the US was an ‘oil importer’ and heavily relied on cheap Middle Eastern oil.

Now, having become an ‘oil producer’, the US geopolitical goal is to isolate Russia — it’s the only country (bar China) that really stands up to US international meddling.

The US isn’t used to being told what to do. It can’t handle the fact that it’s a declining empire — economically, geopolitically, financially, and socially.

As such, you can expect the US to keep doing whatever it takes to exert its authority over Russia.

This means, hitting Russia where it hurts — cutting off its oil and gas money.

Russia is the biggest supplier of natural gas to Western Europe. This grants the county a lot of power. If necessary, it can turn off the gas or raise prices, as it has done during northern winter months in years past.

The US doesn’t like this power play, and to neutralise Russia’s influence over Europe, the US has backed the Qatar-Turkey pipeline (Saudi Arabia).

Russia clearly has an interest to make sure this doesn’t happen. What’s more, it holds long term exploration and development rights to a large part of Syria’s offshore waters.

If Russia can find gas and oil in the region AND have influence over a pipeline to Europe, it can gain more control over all the gas that flows into Europe.

There is a lot at stake here — wealth, prestige and power — for a lot of historically stubborn and confrontational nations.

Geopolitical tensions are heating up.

And all the dangerous ingredients for a Middle Eastern proxy-war are in place.

This is coming whether you like it or not

With Russia and China watching from behind the scenes, Barrack Obama has had no choice but to enforce his ‘no boots on the ground’ policy.

Over the past couple of years, the US spent nearly US$500 million training Syrian rebels to fight IS.

The US realised that this plan had failed long ago. This is why US forces conducted more than 7,000 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria over the last 12 months.

But this plan has also been a complete failure. And Russia and China kept watching on the sidelines.

Out of ideas, Obama and his mates recently pushed the Russians too far. CNBC reported that the Pentagon put ‘boots on the ground’ in Syria, assisting the Kurds on 16 September. The nature of the special operations was not disclosed.

Russia then started bombing the Islamic State on 30 September.

It took them 72 hours to do what US forces couldn’t — destroy significant Islamic State territory and personnel.

Supported by Russian airpower, Iran has now sent thousands of troops into Syria and Iraq to assist with its army’s offensive on IS. The coalition has even taken back important oil refineries captured by IS in September last year.

Meanwhile, the US military strategy appears paralysed.

The oil stock to watch

It’s likely that the entire campaign will shift to Iraq, where the Iranian military just recaptured prized oil fields.

According to the Financial Times, estimates by local traders and engineers put crude production in IS held territory at about 34,000-40,000 barrels per day.

The oil is sold for between US$20 and US$45 a barrel, earning the militants an average of US$1.5 million a day.

While, according to CNBC, the US Rewards for Justice program has ‘offered anyone US$5 million for tips on disrupting IS oil’.

But that’s hardly a long term solution. Iraq is eventually where the US will either need to confront Russia for control over the region, or simply pack up and leave.

It’s unlikely that the US will leave quietly. Especially with US relations with Russia at lows not seen since the Cold War.

That said, we should see Syria pushed into the background for a little while.

The geopolitical story is now moving to the South China Sea, where the US is deploying a number of its war ships in defiance to Chinese authorities.

If you keep following this geopolitical story, you’ll see the switches between Ukraine, the South China Sea and Syria — the three hot-spots that could erupt into a full scale war.

The world is watching who will make the first move. It will take some time before we see a full on confrontation.

Yet at the moment, the stage is being set for the next World War.

While I don’t want this anymore than you do, legendary commodities investor Jim Rogers’s puts it this way:


‘Wars start when bureaucrats make mistakes and then other bureaucrats react to those mistakes and then next thing you know, you have eight or ten bureaucrats sending 18 year old kids to kill each other, and it’s very worrisome what’s happening.’

A mistake is a real possibility. If this happens, Jim explains:


‘Having said that, war is not good for anything, anything at all, except commodities. I’m not going to say buy commodities because you don’t want to start a war, but if there’s going to be a war, it usually means commodity prices go higher.’

Indeed, it takes one mistake to send commodity prices higher.

And I’ve been watching this unfold with growing concern for some time now.

On 3 December 2014, when crude was trading at US$63 per barrel, I wrote to readers of my research letter Resource Speculator:


‘Crude oil prices won’t stay low forever. In fact, expect to see crude oil prices rocket into 2016/17.

‘As economies keep falling apart, geopolitical risk will pick up into 2016/17. You’ll see conflict and social unrest rise around the world at an alarming rate.’

But before the oil price takes off, crude is likely to fall further — hitting my forecast of US$34 per barrel by early 2016.

This should keep the oilers share prices somewhat contained.

In this case, I see no rush to buy any established oilers today — even if they look great on paper. If you buy today, you won’t be buying at the best price.

As such, I’d like to provide you with a recommendation for a top-rated oiler that you should put on your watch-list.

It’s a company you can expect to make big gains on soon...but not quite yet.

This is the best strategy to take, heading into the final stretch of the resources bear market.

You can get my full analysis on this Australian oil stock by checking out this recent issue of my investment newsletter Resource Speculator.

It’s a no-obligation deal, so you have nothing to lose by taking a look.

Simply click here to access this full issue of Resource Speculator

Sincerely,

Ivan Cloherty
12th November 2015, 11:16 PM
Rodney, thank you for #114 I knew I could rely on you to fathom out the true facts. Based on what you have told me I guess in some eyes I must also be a moo slim as I lived four years in Pakistan and also four years in the UAE, we all have a cross to bear but of course being a moo slim I wouldn't be carrying a cross, would I.

Again thanks for coming up with the facts as usual, it is appreciated. Rgds Ivan

j.sabourn
13th November 2015, 12:01 AM
#114... As regards the first part of this post re about a person I to know nothing about, as regards Mr. Obama having nothing to do with, it is not ever used as it shouldn't be but it is known that his own half brother is a muskin. They the politicians must have come to an agreement amongst themselves not to flaunt this as would be unfair as indeed it would be. JS

j.sabourn
13th November 2015, 12:58 AM
#115... John the only thing that western forces have done correctly in my eyes was after the bombing of the twin towers was to go into Afghanastan after the perpetrators. However when they failed in this mission to get the chief wally they should of withdrew their forces within a couple of months. Any other incursions into other countries would under any other circumstances be considered an act of war on their populations. They have left hornets nests behind through lack of knowledge and poor leadership in all cases. This is all down to politicians, and as usual they walk away and leave others to clear up their messes. One of the biggest phonies is British and still strutting the world stage now as a supposedly elder statesman. I would rather go to our local postman than go to him for advice. Cheers JS

happy daze john in oz
13th November 2015, 05:27 AM
Heard a bit on our news today, please tell me it is not true, that the EU is suggesting that all EU persons no longer have the need for a passport within the EU, only to travel outside

John Pruden
13th November 2015, 06:34 AM
well they recon jihadi john has got his wish well bits of him anyway I am normally sorry for a death but sorry to say not in this case?? jp

Ivan Cloherty
13th November 2015, 08:09 AM
Heard a bit on our news today, please tell me it is not true, that the EU is suggesting that all EU persons no longer have the need for a passport within the EU, only to travel outside

On the contrary John, the EU is now considering the re-introduction of passports for all EU citizens as they travel from country to country within the EU. At the current time those living within mainland EU have only to carry a means of identification within the EU, British of course need their passport to leave the UK to enter (and re-enter the UK) the mainland EU, but once within can travel freely within the EU

j.sabourn
13th November 2015, 08:19 AM
#121... I assume he"s not getting a state funeral then John #1&???? JS

cappy
13th November 2015, 08:33 AM
its a shame it would happen so quick he wouldnt know anything ......thats not justice of any sort an animal is togood a name for the pig.....cappy

John Pruden
13th November 2015, 09:03 AM
#121... I assume he"s not getting a state funeral then John #1&???? JS john I suppose as we speek all the tree huggers in this country are trying to make a court case against anyone who had a hand in his death? it will go right up to the court of human rights.. would you not think any young person from this country their family would take stock of them and stop them from going{but it will not happen} jp

Captain Kong
13th November 2015, 10:06 AM
The last time they Zapped two jih adies from UK the stupid dogooders said that Cameron had committed murder by ordering the drone strike.
The same will happen again when the nutters get the news.
Bury then in Pig Manure, it the only thing that prevents them from going to their Paradise, wherever that is.

Brian.

John Pruden
13th November 2015, 03:57 PM
I wonder did he pay his university loan before he went?? jp

Captain Kong
13th November 2015, 05:18 PM
I see that Corbyn has objected to his killing. He said he should have been brought into Court.
He never had his son, brother or a family member beheaded by him. What is he , some kinda Nut? is he fit to be a PM?
"John" has not committed any crime in the UK so a good `uman Rights Lawyer would probably got him off with a caution.
They should get his remains and bury them in Pig Manure that will stop him going to paradise.
Brian

Keith Tindell
13th November 2015, 06:06 PM
The pratts of this world are saying all we are doing is making him a martyr, great, lets make as many as we can, so that they will have to struggle to remember all the martyr s names. Give them a steady supply, kt

John Pruden
13th November 2015, 08:01 PM
dead martyr is better than a live terrorist any day anyone who murders people that want to help without taking sides should not be allowed to be in the human race? jp

cappy
13th November 2015, 08:03 PM
god forbid that rsole corbyn ever gets near to running this country ......he is nuts bloody nuts......and yet he is theleader of the main opposition party in my beloved country ......what is happening to us .......we are not far from losing all......i believe the famous words to captain mainwaring are now but almost on us.......cappy

John Pruden
13th November 2015, 08:07 PM
corbyn wants to take of the rose tinted glasses and have a proper look at the first this country and second the whole world around him he is doing more for the other parties than screaming lord such?? jp

Captain Kong
13th November 2015, 08:34 PM
Hi Rodney
I found this about Valerie Jowett............on google
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The father, grandfather and father-in-law of President Barack Obama's senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, were under investigation by the FBI for alleged Communist ties during the 1950s, according to new documents obtained by Judicial Watch.


Jarrett's dad, Dr. James Bowman, a pathologist and geneticist, had "extensive ties to Communist associations and individuals," reports Judicial Watch, citing his lengthy FBI file obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.


"In 1950 Bowman was in communication with a paid Soviet agent named Alfred Stern, who fled to Prague after getting charged with espionage. Bowman was also a member of a Communist-sympathizing group called the Association of Internes and Medical Students," according to Judicial Watch.

Following his discharge from the Army Medical Corps, Bowman then moved to Iran for work, which is where Jarrett was born.


Bowman's government files describe the Association of Internes and Medical Students as an organization that "has long been a faithful follower of the Communist Party line" and engages in unpatriotic activities.


"Bowman was born in Washington D.C. and had deep ties to Chicago, where he often collaborated with fellow Communists," Judicial Watch says, going on to describe documents from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management that show that the "FBI was brought in to investigate him for his membership in a group that 'follows the communist party line.'"


Separate FBI files obtained by the conservative government watchdog group document how Jarrett's father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, was reportedly a Communist Party member working as a saboteur at various newspapers in Chicago. He was eventually fired from one of those papers for his Communist activities.


He also allegedly wrote propaganda for Communist front groups in Chicago, like the Progressive Party, which would "disseminate the Communist Party line among ... the middle class," Judicial Watch said. In the event of a conflict with the USSR, Vernon Jarrett, who was on the FBI's Security Index for a period of time, would've been arrested.


According to one confidential informant Judicial Watch spoke to, in 1946 at a Communist Party meeting, Vernon Jarrett was instructed by the party to get a member elected in Chicago's Second Ward.

Rodney Mills
13th November 2015, 09:24 PM
Captain. It is such utter ultra right wing crap I didn't waste time or space including that in my answer. If you connect to the link I gave on my answer to Ivan you can see that included in the 'Snopes' response. 'Snopes' by the way, is not attached to any political viewpoint it's sole function is to verify b.s. presented as fact. Snopes enjoys a 98% accuracy rating.

'Snopes' dumps on the Democrats equally when someone tries to spread a falsehood about Republicans. Like I say they have no axe to grind.

The parents were in Iran during the reign of Shah Mohammad Reza Parlavi. Communism was against the law in Iran...It still is under the current Republic of Iran. There is no way a communist American professor would be let into the country let alone teach at Shiraz University. Their is no way a dedicated and open communist can teach in school in the U.S.. No university would accept him. I draw your attention again to my post to Ivan, to my example of a British Nazi being part of 10 Downing St.'s staff for seven years and you or the general public are unaware of it. Gimme a break, p...leeze!

By the way I lived in Iran for almost four years during the late Shah's reign and a week of the new regime (I left Tehran the day before Khomene (sp?) arrived from Paris).

If I didn't have so much respect for the British. I'm sure I could find sites on the web. dedicated to spreading manure to simpletons, and play the old game "haha...gotcha Rodney!"

gray_marian
13th November 2015, 10:05 PM
It really is so annoying having to check out snopes every time you want to post something, have been caught out several times myself:banghead:

Captain Kong
13th November 2015, 10:36 PM
Over 40 people killed in Paris tonight with Suicide Bombers, 100 hostages taken and many injured.
Paris is in Chaos.
And Corbyn wants us to take more moo, slims , in. That guy is Crazy.
Brian

j.sabourn
13th November 2015, 10:44 PM
Those who visited America during the McCarthy era and for years after will well remember the Red under the Bed mentality. For any country who declare they are practicing Democracy then outlaw a political party says a lot. Its a pity they cant get a bit of backbone now and outlaw religious partys with political and traitoruous ambitions. The same goes for any country engaged in the import of such. With the western worlds morals went a lot of other things which kept people of a like mind together. Cappys Mr. Mainwaring is not so funny when one considers the future through gross neglect. JS

j.sabourn
14th November 2015, 02:42 AM
One thing that is glaringly obvious is peoples attitude towards the death penalty. It is quite acceptable to go for a target with a result of either dead or alive, I would say preferably dead. And yet there are still so many against the Death Penalty being administered by a court of law. I see no reason why should have been done away with, surely people don't think that is a sign of progress. There are people languishing in gaol today who have no right to be on this earth, in fact it is an admonition that they should even be buried, they should of been burned and their ashes scattered in the nearest cattle yard. JS

Des Taff Jenkins
14th November 2015, 03:01 AM
HI Brian.
Breaking news here that 160 people were killed in Paris, most in the theatre, French authorities confirm they have killed the terrorists.
I wonder if Angela Merkels is now waking up to what she has let loose on Europe, though I doubt those terrorists in Paris have just arrived. Sweden now talking about closing their border, and calling on Britain to take more refugees, after what has happened in Paris I think that will be a big no no at least from the present Govt.
Cappy. I agree about the clown they have voted in as head of Labour I watched him on TV. I was a Labour supporter out here for a long time, but like your new labour hierarchy they are now all professional idiots who would be better off picking their nose.
Cheers Des

happy daze john in oz
14th November 2015, 06:06 AM
On the contrary John, the EU is now considering the re-introduction of passports for all EU citizens as they travel from country to country within the EU. At the current time those living within mainland EU have only to carry a means of identification within the EU, British of course need their passport to leave the UK to enter (and re-enter the UK) the mainland EU, but once within can travel freely within the EU

Sounds as if someone has at last come to their senses.

John Arton
14th November 2015, 10:45 AM
Corbyn's reaction to the news that jihadi john has been killed in an airstrike was to state that it was a bad thing and that he should have been captured and brought to trial.
So Corbyn wanted to spend millions on a lengthy trial that would give a platform to a terrorist and a murderer to spout his rhetoric and then spend even more millions to keep in safe in a jail where he could spread his evil views whilst been kept warm and fed a special mlim diet.......the man is a fool.
The only sentence that would have been better than blowing him up would have been to carry out a public beheading on the block that was used a couple of hundred years ago in the Tower of London.
rgds
JA
p.s. love that post from Marian regarding pig products in medicine, explosives etc. lets print leaflets and post them to every musque in the world.

happy daze john in oz
7th December 2015, 11:34 AM
A thought for all to consider.
There is a push both here in parts of Oz, though not as bad, and UK to replace 'MERRY CHRISTMAS' with happy holidays, why?
There area bunch of doo good left wing socialists who are fearful of offending those who may not be of Christian origin.
But consider this, those of other religions and cultures have their own festivals, be they Jew, Moslem, Hindu or calathumpian.
But does any one say, 'oh we must change that in case we offend'!
Of course not, they have more prestige than that.
It is only the stupid western do good attitude fearful of who knows what that do this.

Captain Kong
7th December 2015, 11:36 AM
Happy Honaker, John
es salaam.
Brian

gray_marian
7th December 2015, 01:20 PM
#142, This may solve that issue John.:rolleyes:

Say Merry Christmas - Vocal Carrie Rinderer and the American Christian Life United (ACLU) choir... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/embed/ln01p1M2cH0)

Dennis McGuckin
8th December 2015, 05:40 PM
A thought for all to consider.
There is a push both here in parts of Oz, though not as bad, and UK to replace 'MERRY CHRISTMAS' with happy holidays, why?
There area bunch of doo good left wing socialists who are fearful of offending those who may not be of Christian origin.
But consider this, those of other religions and cultures have their own festivals, be they Jew, Moslem, Hindu or calathumpian.
But does any one say, 'oh we must change that in case we offend'!
Of course not, they have more prestige than that.
It is only the stupid western do good attitude fearful of who knows what that do this. Just beat me to it John. Couldnt agree more.