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john gill
15th June 2013, 01:29 PM
Do any members know the derivation of the term'bagging off'?

cappy
15th June 2013, 01:40 PM
didn't think I was deviating when I bagged of

Red Lead Ted
15th June 2013, 01:55 PM
I suspect this has something to do with a cat,o nine tails, During the day,s of sail and punishment meated out. Myth has it the whip itself was kept in a red bag below decks as not to show any blood that would appear on the cat,o nine tails after a few lashes Regards John Terry.:thumb_ship2:

Louis the Amigo
15th June 2013, 02:20 PM
Hi shipmates, Hi john Gill "Bagging off" is what you do on grain ships to stop the grain from moving you put sacks of grain on top.

Keith at Tregenna
15th June 2013, 02:48 PM
Possibly stems from bagsy: British slang term, dates to 1866. Etymologically related to the way small-game hunters claim and store their kill in bags, but no one is quite sure.

Kids still bagsy things today: Wanting to lay claim in a similar way they might say “bagsy that peice of cake etc”.

Apparently the term in the Merchant Navy for going with girls is “bagging off"

EG: My two mates were adamant that bagging off was not a consideration.

During the Second World War the seamen of the Merchant Navy were lauded as tough and heroic – “the shining courage of the men of the Merchant Navy“ was a standard phrase in the editorials of The Seaman, the Journal of the National Union of Seamen. Members of the royal family, the Archbishop of Canterbury, politicians, admirals and ship owners regularly echoed these sentiments. Labour cabinet Minister Ernest Bevin said, “When a seaman torpedoed nine or 10 times comes ashore with his bag on his shoulder and then sails again, this is courage”. The same message, repeated many times by many people was also echoed in the press with unanimity. An editorial in The Times of November 1941 called for a greater recognition for merchant seamen. “In the sustained endurance of our volunteer merchant seamen lies our hope of victory.” The behaviour of thoughtless citizens who wasted bread was contrasted in the Daily Mirror of January 1942 with the courage of merchant seamen who risked and lost their lives bringing home cargoes of grain.

Could be when a seaman torpedoed nine or 10 times comes ashore with his bag on his shoulder ?

K.

John Pruden
15th June 2013, 03:03 PM
just go to the pen and wig:p:pjp

Tony Wilding
15th June 2013, 05:47 PM
dont know if this is meant to be serious or not, am hesitant to describe, ! am fully aware of the meaning, other term was Bagging The Plates, in ER with an old Cotton Waste Sack, to dry any oil and shine them, sprinkle some Diesel or Paraffin first, used to make them shine. Bagging Off was more of a shoreside Occupation.

Ivan Cloherty
15th June 2013, 05:52 PM
In the Charleston dance era (1920's) men' trousers were known as bags because they were high and wide, braces (or suspenders as our cousins call them) were also in fashion, bagging off probably getting your bags off for a bit of hanky panky

John Albert Evans
15th June 2013, 06:34 PM
just go to the pen and wig:p:pjp

Is that what happened when you went downstairs John.:D

John Albert Evans

John Pruden
15th June 2013, 07:05 PM
i don't kiss and tell john??:cool:jp

E.Martin
15th June 2013, 07:08 PM
Lady of the Night or (Old Bag)
You have it away Bag Off Simple.

John Pruden
15th June 2013, 07:41 PM
sleeping bag!!!!!jp

Kenneth Kenny
15th June 2013, 09:38 PM
Bag Off, Maggy May,Leg Over,Lime Street,Havana,Recife,Ken.R634898.

john gill
16th June 2013, 07:57 AM
Reckon JP was close. Apparently it was a Dutch practise where betrothed couples were allowed to sleep together but until they were wed they were trussed up securely in bags to prevent any pre marital hanky-panky. Obviously, demands of the flesh are stronger than the ties that bind and, Houdini like, usually managed to free themselves from their bags- ergo-bagging off. Judging by my last visit to Amsterdam, those ladies adorning their windows along the canals had long since freed themselves.
gilly

E.Martin
16th June 2013, 10:37 AM
Remember being in a bar on of the lads peel off with a bird to go up stairs all the others sang.
You wont get none ,you wont get none

Richard Quartermaine
16th June 2013, 11:32 AM
It certainly goes back a long time. In the late 1930s as kids and up to quite recently we always said I bags this or I bags that when claiming anything. If I were to say that now I'm sure it would be understood.
Richard

Jim Brady
16th June 2013, 08:41 PM
The only time that I came across that expression is when somebody mentioned a port."I bagged off there it was a great bagging off place" obviously no need to spell it out!!
Regards.
Jim.B,

happy daze john in oz
17th June 2013, 06:20 AM
There were a number of 'ladies' for whom a bag over the head would have been of better use. But as the saying goes, one does not look at the mantlepiece when one is poking the fire. Bagging off with such ladies would bring a man to return to his ship in the morning at a rate of knots.

robpage
17th June 2013, 12:03 PM
in the Uk you can hire the kit for it , follow thw link Bagging Off Kits (http://www.aplant.com/hire/bagging-off-kits/)

happy daze john in oz
18th June 2013, 06:28 AM
in the Uk you can hire the kit for it , follow thw link Bagging Off Kits (http://www.aplant.com/hire/bagging-off-kits/)


Bagging off kits, sometimes known as profolactic kits or packets of three.

john gill
18th June 2013, 08:32 AM
Bagging off kits, sometimes known as profolactic kits or packets of three.

Pack of one lasts me quite a while.

Colin Pook
11th July 2013, 02:35 PM
I prefer Cappy's version. (much more sociable)
Colin

happy daze john in oz
12th July 2013, 06:24 AM
didn't think I was deviating when I bagged of

I sincerely hope not, deviating can get you into deep crap!!!!!