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Ann Robinson
20th July 2011, 06:06 PM
My Grandfather was chief steward for the Union Castle Line at the time of his death at sea in 1928. He was buried in Capetown. I have original menus from RMS Briton and RMS Saxon. There is a story that he was aboard a ship called The Capellonia about 1918, (I cannot find any trace of this vessel), with someone who I believe to have been a Mr Cayzer, who would appear to have owned Clan Line. There are in the family, 3 wine glasses believed to have been given to my Grandfather by Mr Cayzer. Have you any ideas that may help test this story please.

Doc Vernon
20th July 2011, 10:33 PM
Hello Ann
The Company (Clan Line) was indeed owed by Kayzer,and it is more than possible that your dear Grandfather was given these Glasses!
They were a Scottish concern as far as i recall,and as you will see were also involved in Caledonia Investments,this Company funnily enough was part of our Family history,(that is the Caledonian Society) as my late Grandfather AJ MacDonald and wife (Grandmother) were both Members and he the Secretary of that Society !
Small World!
Hope this may assist ??

Thus far i cannot also find any Ship by that name ,but will keep looking!
I am sure if it existed someone here will come up with it!

Shipping Line Histories - Clan Line (http://www.oceanlinermuseum.co.uk/Clan%20Line%20History.html)


You may be interested in getting this Book!

Link from SN


Could that Ship have been the Caladonia??


happy daze john in oz
21st July 2011, 06:50 AM
In 1853 the Union steam Collier Company was formed. A fleet of five tiny ships by todays standard, including the Saxon, Briton, Norman and Dane.The intention was for them to bring coal to Southampton.But the Crimean war intervened and at the wars end in 1856 alternative arrangements were made for the shipment of coal.In 1857 the Admiralty invited tenders for a mail service to South Africa.
On September 15 the Dane set out on the first mail run.She carried only six passengers and the profit for the company was only GB 102.
In 1862 Charles Cayzer joined British India in Bombay, while Donald Currie founded the 'Castle' line of sailing ships between Liverpool and Calcutta.
In 1878 Cayzer went into partnership with with his friend Captain Irvine as Cayzer Irvine and Co. They started Clan line which 78 years later merged with Union Castle.

Ann Robinson
22nd July 2011, 09:51 AM
Thanks for your responses. Thanks to Ron Mappelbeck it has been discovered that a ship called Cap Polonio is the most likley candidate. Interesting history. In 1919 was surrendered to Allied Shipping Commision and eventually became part of the Union Casle Line. Was not fast enough for Cape Town trip and after refit tranfered to P&O. Returned to original owners, Hamburg-Sud, in 1921. I have found a picture of a model in Union Castle livery. Thankyou once more.
Ann Robinson

Doc Vernon
22nd July 2011, 10:46 PM
Single Ship Report for "1143188"

IDNo:1143188 (http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/list?IDNo=1143188&search_op=OR)Year:1915Name:VINETAKeel:Type:Auxilia ry cruiserLaunch Date:25.3.14Flag EUDate of completion:8.2.15
1919, standard 1920 - for SS surface Tons:1919, standard 1920> - for SS surface 20572Link:1403 (http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/shipyard/list?link=1403)DWT:Yard No:221Length overall:Ship Design:LPP:194.4Country of build EUBeam:22.0Builder:Blohm & VossMaterial of build:Location of yard:SteinwerderNumber of
Naval or paramilitary marking :NA:*End:1936
Subsequent History:

Disposal Data:

BU Bremerhaven 1q.36


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